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1972 Cuda Power to manual conversion question. #1918261 09/23/15 06:34 PM 09/23/15 06:34 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 153 Bradenton, FL B Benforsp OP member
Benforsp OP member B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 153 Bradenton, FL	Hello All, I don't post often but read a great deal and try and follow along as time allows. Today I had an issue and I am hoping someone can help. I was replacing the power steering box in my 1972 cuda with a manual box and was under the impression the pitman arms were the same. Well I was wrong. The power steering pitman is too large (1.200") vs. the manual box output shaft (1.100"). I assume I need a different pitman? Any idea where I can get one? The manual box was out of a late 60's Dart and the power boz was original to the car. When I look for the part there is not a separate listing for a manual vs. power. Thanks in advance! Simon

Re: 1972 Cuda Power to manual conversion question. [Re: Benforsp] #1918289 09/23/15 07:14 PM 09/23/15 07:14 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 860 lancaster,california johnnycuda super stock
johnnycuda super stock Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 860 lancaster,california	I converted my '70 Cuda to manual 20 years ago, but I used a manual box from a parts car slant 6 '70 Barracuda, I just ordered a pitman arm from Summit, for a Barracuda, and was not asked if it was power or manual steering, plan to change it and the idler arm this weekend. The company was Proforged Chassis, part # 103-10030. 1970 'Cuda,Lime Light,499 Indy S/R's 10.70's @125,street driven ALOT! 1966 Barracuda 360,now a 5spd,Hemi Orange,Hot Rod Air, New daily driver-2003 Ram 2500 Cummins 5.9 '69 Valiant 2-dr, sleeper! New project---1938 Dodge truck, plan is a 360 with a A500, AC, Calvert rear susp., rack and pinion front with coils.

Re: 1972 Cuda Power to manual conversion question. [Re: johnnycuda] #1918436 09/23/15 10:42 PM 09/23/15 10:42 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 153 Bradenton, FL B Benforsp OP member
Benforsp OP member B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 153 Bradenton, FL	Thank Johnny. I appreciate the response. I did check it out on summit and it said it would fit manual and power assist. If you have the ability to measure, it would be great to know the ID of the steering box side of the pitman arm.

Re: 1972 Cuda Power to manual conversion question. [Re: Benforsp] #1918817 09/24/15 03:07 PM 09/24/15 03:07 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 860 lancaster,california johnnycuda super stock
johnnycuda super stock Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 860 lancaster,california	I called Proforged this morning to ask, because I'd rather find out there is a difference before taking it apart, then finding out. The tech said '70-'72 E-body used a smaller sector shaft, after '73 it was larger. By the way, I had also ordered a pitman for the Valiant I'm building, and it was a different part number from the E-body, so the A-body pitman is different. 1970 'Cuda,Lime Light,499 Indy S/R's 10.70's @125,street driven ALOT! 1966 Barracuda 360,now a 5spd,Hemi Orange,Hot Rod Air, New daily driver-2003 Ram 2500 Cummins 5.9 '69 Valiant 2-dr, sleeper! New project---1938 Dodge truck, plan is a 360 with a A500, AC, Calvert rear susp., rack and pinion front with coils.

Re: 1972 Cuda Power to manual conversion question. [Re: Benforsp] #1918883 09/24/15 04:44 PM 09/24/15 04:44 PM
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JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,020 U.S.S.A.	Originally Posted By Benforsp Hello All, I don't post often but read a great deal and try and follow along as time allows. Today I had an issue and I am hoping someone can help. I was replacing the power steering box in my 1972 cuda with a manual box and was under the impression the pitman arms were the same. Well I was wrong. The power steering pitman is too large (1.200") vs. the manual box output shaft (1.100"). I assume I need a different pitman? Any idea where I can get one? The manual box was out of a late 60's Dart and the power boz was original to the car. When I look for the part there is not a separate listing for a manual vs. power. Thanks in advance! Simon The box must have been changed unless you have a very late build 72 because 73 was the first year for the large output PS box. running up my post count some more .

Re: 1972 Cuda Power to manual conversion question. [Re: JohnRR] #1919046 09/24/15 08:51 PM 09/24/15 08:51 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 153 Bradenton, FL B Benforsp OP member
Benforsp OP member B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 153 Bradenton, FL	Hey John, Thanks for the reply. I have to assume it is a late model. I have owned the car for 20 years and to the best of my knowledge the unit is the factory unit. So what is the correct pitman arm? I order the one for a 73 cuda. MOOG PN K7075. I am wondering if this will work?

Re: 1972 Cuda Power to manual conversion question. [Re: Benforsp] #1919052 09/24/15 09:01 PM 09/24/15 09:01 PM
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edison1970 member E Joined: Dec 2010 Posts: 33 myrtle beach, sc	Order 73-74 if it is the larger. They are also less expensive than the smaller one. You also have to have the longer steering column shaft.

Re: 1972 Cuda Power to manual conversion question. [Re: edison1970] #1919962 09/26/15 10:23 AM 09/26/15 10:23 AM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 153 Bradenton, FL B Benforsp OP member
Benforsp OP member B Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 153 Bradenton, FL	Just for the record...I ordered the K7075 which is for the 73-74 e-body's and it worked fine. Exactly the same as the 72 power steering model, but with the smaller hole to fit the manual output shaft. It should work fine with the 70-72 e-body with manual steering. Hopefully this will help someone in the future.

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