So a simple case where I should have taken a picture and the opportunity is now lost . . .
There are two stickers for 1970
2931181 - Less convertible caution statement, and
2962995 - With convertible caution statement

Is this as easy as saying that only convertibles would have received the 2962995 or was there a cut in date (presumably when the first convertibles were manufactured) that would have made the additional statement standard on ALL Cudas?

My car is a 3/19 built AAR. Would anyone have a picture of an original AAR jack sticker close to my build date?

I think you have it correct

I'm making an assumption on how and why there are two configurations, what I'd really like to know is what's correct for an AAR?

Sorry all, been beating bushes with this and can't seem to turn up with a definitive answer.

What I'm hoping for is original paint/original jacking stickers from AAR's, along with SPD date if known. (Pictures appreciated if you have them)

Again, trying to determine whats correct for AAR's

2931181 - Less convertible caution statement
or
2962995 - With convertible caution statement

Were they all the same?
Was there a change around an SPD date?
Was it random as hell?

Thanks in advance

I emailed you as well but wanted to post on here also. The pix I sent you showing the instructions cover 2/3/70 - 3/19/70 and 4/3/70 I will check with an AAR owner whos car was one of the last cars built and see if he can send me a pic of his. The picture you sent me was a little pixelated but I could see enough though. It looks like a reproduction sticker on a car that had a fresh restoration??? Is that correct?? As I also said in our email I stopped taking pix of the jack instructions once I had pix of over 100 cars and all were the same. While I don't have tag info for all those cars it wasn't something that showed a wide range of variation in the stickers they were all the same.

Appreciate the help and followup to this thread.

Yes the photo I sent was not an original unrestored car, just a picture to show the difference between the two sticker PN's.

To clear this for any that may be reading the results of this thread, all the photos you sent were of original unrestored cars all showing the PN 2962995 - With convertible caution statement

When you have an opportunity, please review and confirm the SPD dates are;
2/3/70 - Cuda, Non AAR (to early for AAR Production)
3/19/70 - Cuda, AAR
4/3/70 - Cuda, AAR

Thanks again for the help

So Jeff, if I read your post correctly and the clarification by Lew, all AAR that you have seen or have pictures of have the convertible caution statement on them, correct?

When I got to that point on my car I ordered the decal and label kit from ECS and they sent me the one with no caution for my 407 built AAR. I know Dave usually researches things well beyond most so I wonder what information lead him to no caution at that time? It is possible that he didn't give it any thought but it would be strange from my experiences with him that he overlooked the 2 options and a switch over date.

The 2/3/70 is the pilot AAR I also have an AAR with a 4/13/70 SPD with same jack instructions as the others.

That is correct. As I mentioned in the email I stopped taking pix of the jack instructions after roughly 100 cars because they were all the same. There is no cut off date as far as I can tell and all AAR's use the 2962995. Replace the one you have with the correct one.

Thank you.

Glad I could help!!

Thanks again, this was driving me crazy, now just one less thing to lose sleep over

Well before you drive yourself crazy or lose sleep over the next thing.. Email or message me first. Ill try and keep you from sleepless nights!!! lol :P

As the good book of Proverbs 18:17 states, one side sounds right until the other states their case. With that said, we never sent anyone the "wrong" decal. The Customer or person who started this thread called with a specific list of decals that they wanted and we sent EXACTLY what they ordered. Had they ordered a "Kit" we would have asked for all vehicle information like build dates, power train, etc..... They never provided specific information about their vehicle. They simply called with a list of decals they wanted and we filled their order. I have no idea why some people start their research AFTER ordering specific parts. Had the original poster called with these questions after receiving his order in August, all the guessing and hypothesizing in this thread would have been completely unnecessary.

March 10, 1970 was a time in the Automotive Idustry where all vehicles were revamped with their new Emissions programs. Various decals on the Cars were redesigned to update antiquated information. The Jacking Instructions decal was one of those items. You could have seen 3 different decals, as much as 5 weeks prior or past the March 10Th date. What no one here has mentioned are 3 styles of the 2962995 version that was available. One variation was .75" narrower than the "standard type" which the "experts" deem as the acceptable version. A different style has angled edges instead of the corners rounded and has red lettering used for the small "caution" verbiage located under the top box of the exploded diagram. (Below are photos of all the examples.)

The first picture is of the early 2931181 version. The next is of the 2962995 with small red letting and angle cut edges. The next two (side by side) shows the larger & smaller version the different red letter "CAUTION" fonts at the bottom of the decal. 3 Completely different versions of the EXACT same part number. Maybe the "expert" posting in this thread can provide us with the reasons for the 3 different variations of the 2962995 Jacking Instructions Decal.

Dave W.

Just curious but how did you order these decals? Did you order them by the part number or did you provide ECS with all of the pertinent info for your car? When I've purchased the kits from them, I've had to give them detailed info like date codes, packages, etc.

I'm sure if you let Dave know what the issue was when it first occurred, he would have sent the correct one right away.

Never had a concern with Dave, he has always done the right thing by me. I was unaware there was even an option when I ordered mine around March of 14 and like you I provided my SBD adn any other pertinent info requested. With the latest info psted by Dave I'm not sure anything can be completely considered "wrong". I'll have to go back and study some original AAR examples I have to see what veriations they have if any. I'm not overly concerned about it to be completely frank. The fact is the number of people that really know what is right or wrong is minimal in most any case. I cant tell that it has made a bit of difference in the way the car has performed for 10,000 miles in the last 15 months, of course I haven't had to use the jack yet so it may create an issue at that point.

Dave, Always appreciate your knowledge but your off base on your accusations, perhaps talking with your employee will shed new light. Trust me when I tell you we discussed the car the decals were for, along with the SPD. I had no use for a complete sticker kit so I did take the time to order a-la-cart, confirming each sticker during the order process. One of my main questions was about the difference of the two jack stickers and your employee assured me the sticker less convertible caution was what I needed for my AAR.

You are correct, my bad in that I should have completely researched the topic prior to ordering but knowing your reputation I relied on your expertise (or your companies in this case as I didn't speak directly with you)

I called and spoke with another of your employee's today who didn't seem aware of all the facts you state but was nice enough to offer to swap the 1181 for a 2995. I will have it in the mail tomorrow.

As per Lew's post and in an email to me.. He asked what would be the correct jack instruction sticker for his AAR with a SPD of 3/19/70 I sent him a pic from an AAR with the same SPD.





A 2 owner car and it shows the sticker as it is on the car.

I also sent him pix from the AAR Pilot car. SPD 2/3/70
and also pix from an AAR with an SPD of 4/3/70 I even have pix of AAR's with SPD's of 4/13 and 4/15 and an owner of one of the last AAR's built has registered the car with me and I will email and ask him if he can take a pic or two and send them to me so I can keep on file for reference.

What I sent him and the 2 pix I posted here are from actual AAR's and to be precise an AAR with the same SPD as his.

David I haven't seen you in quite sometime. I believe the last time was at the Nats many years ago. I hope you have been well. Never heard anything else from you about how you made out in reproducing the correct texture on the AAR Stripes. How did that ever turn out?? I know its been a while. If you remember in a few of our conversations I had said I don't consider myself an "expert" and I will correct people when they call me that as I don't think anyone is an expert on any of this stuff. there are too many inconsistencies. That said I will give an answer my thoughts on the stickers you posted. First thing I noticed they were on some type of vinyl or laminate. You should know as I do that they did use different vendors to make the same things so i would say that's possibly where the differences come in on the 3 that are similar. The one with cut edges is most likely an early reproduction as I have never seen one like that on an untouched car before. It just has the appearance of a new/newer sticker. Remember too this question was about a sticker for an AAR. A specific car with a limited production run. I stopped documenting the stickers after seeing they were all the same. I have been waiting to come across one that's different but haven't found it yet (in an AAR) Thank you for posting the different ones you have. Was nice to see the subtle differences.

I want to apologize to a few of you guys for mixing up information concerning who was "complaining" about the different Decal options. A series of weird coincidences had this ordeal messed up regarding those who were involved with the original scenario.

Please DO NOT send back the other Jacking Decal. I will instruct my Guys to send you out a couple of the ones you requested so you have an extra. Again, sorry for the confusion to everyone involved.

Every Chrysler Trunk Jacking Decal was either manufactured on un-coated paper or a coated semi-gloss material. Most of the examples after 1969 were all produced on the coated semi-gloss material. The shiny appearance on the ones I posted was due to a clear coating that I sprayed on them to keep the ink from flaking off while removing them from the original vehicles. They are not "vinyl" and I have never documented an original "vinyl" Trunk Jacking Decal on any E Body vehicle. For the record, I've documented 2931181 decals that were used on E Bodies as late as 5 weeks past the March 10, 1970 date. AAR's or T/A's would not have received a special Jacking Instruction Decal different from the rest of the E Body production vehicles.

The small 2962995 example was briefly used after the 2931181 early version. I have only seen 4 in the many examples I have documented. They appear to be a morphing of the early & later styles. You'll notice that the small one has the lower "CAUTION" font of the earlier version but has the "Convertible" text of the later styles. The larger 2962995 version was the one that followed and was used for the remainder of the 1970 model year. The 2962995 Decal I posted with the cut edges is a LATER 1971 example. It used small red "Caution" lettering in the place of the blue print that was used on all of the earlier versions. My photo looks "new" because it was a printed copy of the original example I used to format it from. I returned the original I borrowed and only had the printout copy to use in the picture that I previously posted. Below is a photo of that actual Decal before it was removed from a 1971 survivor E Body vehicle.