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Re: worn fuel pump push rod [Re: mopars4ever] #1890180
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Originally Posted By mopars4ever
Mopar supposedly had put a bad batch of the push rods out years ago so when you get a new one I would look elsewhere.


This issue has been a subject of conversation for years. Years ago a bad batch of fuel pump rods were in circulation. Looks like you got one of them. The rod should be hardened. Since then I've checked rods that I've installed by running a file over each end. If I get shavings the rod is bad. Make sure you place a few magnets at the bottom of your pan.

This issue was also a problem with the mechanical cam adjusters. The tips in contact with the pushrods would prematurely wear down. Crane Cam adjusters were the main culprit since they got most of their small parts from off shore.


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Re: worn fuel pump push rod [Re: dart4forte] #1890224
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The problem is one cannot reduce the problem to one bad batch of fuel pump pushrods sold by MP or Direct Connection.

There were PLENTY of insufficiently hardened fuel pump pushrods put in AT THE TRENTON ENGINE PLANT. I have heard from several people who had it happen to their car that they bought new in 1968 or whenever. They remember it because it took some digging to figure out what the problem was.

Most people don't even know that the fuel pump has a pushrod.

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Re: worn fuel pump push rod [Re: joelson6] #1890255
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I believe mccannix still might have a few NOS Fuel Pump Push Rods around. I bought a tin can full of them off him a year ago or so. He still had a lot more left. I just bought them because of the problem that happened over the years with the wear on these rods.


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Re: worn fuel pump push rod [Re: joelson6] #1890264
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The problem is one cannot reduce the problem to one bad batch of fuel pump pushrods sold by MP or Direct Connection.
Not reducing it to anything, just warning him to stay away from them.

Re: worn fuel pump push rod [Re: joelson6] #1890369
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He said the rod he reused was the original rod that was installed in the engine in 1970 so those beating the bad batch dead horse are doing just that.

I'm going to surmise that the cam lobe is the culprit that caused this, I wonder what the blank is that Ebrock uses for their cams?

Re: worn fuel pump push rod [Re: joelson6] #1890950
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Thanks for the concern about the bad batch of fuel pump rods. but like JohnRR said, this rod has been in the engine since 1970. there was no problem with the original cam and rod. the problem developed when i installed the Edelbrock cam. I'm thinking it had something to do with the cam, that's why I'm replacing the cam. now i just have to wait 2 more weeks for the new cam to get here.

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2 weeks for a cam ???

Re: worn fuel pump push rod [Re: joelson6] #1891018
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yea, if i was building an 11 second car, i could have it tomorrow. but i want a stock cam for a '70 Newport, THAT has to be made to order. go figure.

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and to my surprise, look what showed up at my door today. Summit said it was gonna be shipped on the 28th. i guess i know what i'm doing tonight.




Re: worn fuel pump push rod [Re: dart4forte] #1891364
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Originally Posted By dart4forte
Originally Posted By mopars4ever
Mopar supposedly had put a bad batch of the push rods out years ago so when you get a new one I would look elsewhere.


This issue has been a subject of conversation for years. Years ago a bad batch of fuel pump rods were in circulation. Looks like you got one of them. The rod should be hardened. Since then I've checked rods that I've installed by running a file over each end. If I get shavings the rod is bad. Make sure you place a few magnets at the bottom of your pan.

This issue was also a problem with the mechanical cam adjusters. The tips in contact with the pushrods would prematurely wear down. Crane Cam adjusters were the main culprit since they got most of their small parts from off shore.


Crane made the adjusters (and virtually all of their "small parts") in house. Nothing from offshore. There was a heat treat issue, and a recall followed. As Crane only knew who bought them directly, they had to depend on the distributors to follow up with their customers. No internet back then. Some folks were more responsive then others. Regards, Chase

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He said the rod he reused was the original rod that was installed in the engine in 1970 so those beating the bad batch dead horse are doing just that.
Again, not beating a dead horse. His old rod is bad correct? He needs a new one correct? Just warning him to stay away from the mopar ones in case he may get one that may be from that bad batch.

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Originally Posted By mopars4ever
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He said the rod he reused was the original rod that was installed in the engine in 1970 so those beating the bad batch dead horse are doing just that.
Again, not beating a dead horse. His old rod is bad correct? He needs a new one correct? Just warning him to stay away from the mopar ones in case he may get one that may be from that bad batch.



i never answered this, but i didn't get a "bad" rod from mopar. i bought a rod from Howards Cams. a lot of people recommended that. plus the new cam and lifters are from Howards.

Re: worn fuel pump push rod [Re: cknight] #1891719
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Originally Posted By cknight
Originally Posted By dart4forte
Originally Posted By mopars4ever
Mopar supposedly had put a bad batch of the push rods out years ago so when you get a new one I would look elsewhere.


This issue has been a subject of conversation for years. Years ago a bad batch of fuel pump rods were in circulation. Looks like you got one of them. The rod should be hardened. Since then I've checked rods that I've installed by running a file over each end. If I get shavings the rod is bad. Make sure you place a few magnets at the bottom of your pan.

This issue was also a problem with the mechanical cam adjusters. The tips in contact with the pushrods would prematurely wear down. Crane Cam adjusters were the main culprit since they got most of their small parts from off shore.


Crane made the adjusters (and virtually all of their "small parts") in house. Nothing from offshore. There was a heat treat issue, and a recall followed. As Crane only knew who bought them directly, they had to depend on the distributors to follow up with their customers. No internet back then. Some folks were more responsive then others. Regards, Chase


Thanks for the update. Just wanted to point out that there are still some bad adjusters floating around in the used parts world. We're you with the old Crane Cams?


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Originally Posted By dart4forte
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Originally Posted By mopars4ever
Mopar supposedly had put a bad batch of the push rods out years ago so when you get a new one I would look elsewhere.


This issue has been a subject of conversation for years. Years ago a bad batch of fuel pump rods were in circulation. Looks like you got one of them. The rod should be hardened. Since then I've checked rods that I've installed by running a file over each end. If I get shavings the rod is bad. Make sure you place a few magnets at the bottom of your pan.

This issue was also a problem with the mechanical cam adjusters. The tips in contact with the pushrods would prematurely wear down. Crane Cam adjusters were the main culprit since they got most of their small parts from off shore.


Crane made the adjusters (and virtually all of their "small parts") in house. Nothing from offshore. There was a heat treat issue, and a recall followed. As Crane only knew who bought them directly, they had to depend on the distributors to follow up with their customers. No internet back then. Some folks were more responsive then others. Regards, Chase


Thanks for the update. Just wanted to point out that there are still some bad adjusters floating around in the used parts world. We're you with the old Crane Cams?


Yes, those have been floating around for over 15 years. Been here at Crane since 1967......Chase

Re: worn fuel pump push rod [Re: joelson6] #1892405
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it's back together with the new cam and running nice on the mechanical fuel pump. just broke in the cam and now i gotta change the oil. then take her for a ride.

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