Re: sun pro super tach
[Re: bonefish]
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07/19/15 01:53 PM
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Red and black are 12v + and -. Green is the trigger. I also believe that those tachs need an adapter to function correctly on the MSDs. Hook it up and try it. If it's way off, you need the adapter.
If accuracy is important, perhaps a higher quality, more up to date instrument would be a better choice. Not sure how much I would trust that old tach. A used Autometer or other modern unit should be easy to find for a good price.
Last edited by CMcAllister; 07/19/15 01:55 PM.
If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.
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Re: sun pro super tach
[Re: bonefish]
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07/19/15 02:19 PM
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If it's really an old one and it works ok, guys will buy those for old muscle cars and period correct old race cars. If it's one of those with the American flag design or a "Big Daddy Don Garlits" model, throw it ebay and get a good tach for distributor machine.
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Re: sun pro super tach
[Re: bonefish]
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07/19/15 09:06 PM
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It will NOT work without a tach adapter
Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
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Re: sun pro super tach
[Re: bonefish]
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07/20/15 12:19 AM
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Some people confuse the original Sun SST tachs with the Sunpro. They only look similar and that's where it stops. The original Sun tachs came in several different models. Some needed the tach adapter and some didn't. The easiest way to tell on an old Sun is to look at the lugs. If one is marked "trigger" it does not need an adapter. The ones that do will say "series transmitter" on the tag. To the best of my knowledge Sunpro didn't make tachs that required an adapter/transmitter but I could be way off on that. Sunpro was a tach manufactured in China by the Actron Corp. since 1988 which has since been acquired by Bosch.
From an article about Actron - "Since the 1980's, Actron has used acquisitions to advance its market position with significant additions: In 1986, Actron acquired the KAL Equip Company, a maker of professional automotive diagnostic equipment. And in 1988, Actron licensed the rights to the Sunpro tachometer and gauge business from Sun Electric/Snap-On. Meanwhile the company was years ahead of all other industry players with the implementation of its "right-sourcing" manufacturing strategy and the establishment of a factory in Yantai, China, in 1989."
Some people confuse the original Sun SST tachs with the Sunpro. They only look similar and that's where it stops. The original Sun tachs came in several different models. Some needed the tach adapter and some didn't. The easiest way to tell on an old Sun is to look at the lugs. If one is marked "trigger" it does not need an adapter. The ones that do will say "series transmitter" on the tag. To the best of my knowledge Sunpro didn't make tachs that required an adapter/transmitter but I could be way off on that. Sunpro was a tach manufactured in China by the Actron Corp. since 1988 which has since been acquired by Bosch.
From an article about Actron - "Since the 1980's, Actron has used acquisitions to advance its market position with significant additions: In 1986, Actron acquired the KAL Equip Company, a maker of professional automotive diagnostic equipment. And in 1988, Actron licensed the rights to the Sunpro tachometer and gauge business from Sun Electric/Snap-On. Meanwhile the company was years ahead of all other industry players with the implementation of its "right-sourcing" manufacturing strategy and the establishment of a factory in Yantai, China, in 1989."
After further investigation I understand the difference between the Sun transmitter adapter and the need for the MSD Tach Adapter. HemiRick is correct. It doesn't specifically say Sunpro but according to the 6AL installation instructions -
Last edited by shorthorse; 07/20/15 10:40 AM.
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Re: sun pro super tach
[Re: bonefish]
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07/20/15 11:02 AM
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I used an old Sun super tach in my car for awhile for the 'period correct' look. It DID require an adapter that cost about $80.00 from MSD to work with the 6AL. I later saw where Sun makes NEW tachs that DON'T require an adapter that look like the old Sun tachs.
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Re: sun pro super tach
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07/20/15 12:44 PM
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My one of those did NOT work w/o an adapter
Take care, Rick 68 Coronet R/T 440 & 68 Charger 528 Hemi,and 5 Challengers! 6 cyl, 318, 360, 383, 451
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Re: sun pro super tach
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07/20/15 03:01 PM
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this is the tach in question. Yep....that's the one I used too. Needed an adapter box.
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Re: sun pro super tach
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07/20/15 04:54 PM
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No MSD= no adapter? I.E. MP box?
It may be ugly, but it sure is slow.
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Re: sun pro super tach
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07/20/15 05:39 PM
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No MSD= no adapter? I.E. MP box? Yup. Back in the early 80's I tried to run a new Sun Super Tach II with an MSD box, and even with the adapter it did not work. Gave up and bought an autometer.
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Re: sun pro super tach
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07/21/15 09:54 AM
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how can I tell how old it is?i think ive only had for MABEY 20 years and it was used when I got it.its just made out of plastic. Just saw the pictures super tach II, it's pretty much garbage. The tachII that was in my 69 Dart read low , 400 at idle , 1500 at 5000.
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