Re: New Project.
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Could Dodge have built them if someone ordered one? I never even noticed that this combination doesn't seem to exist.
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Re: New Project.
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I have a 75 club cab short bed for sale but not a step side, never heard of one.
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Re: New Project.
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The step side bed is actually 7 1/2' long, where a short box is 6' long. You would need to use the long box (8') club cab & have really short bumper brackets. Gene The short Utiline beds were roughly the same length as the short Sweptline beds. Nobody specified long or short bed in this thread. The short bed is 6.5', not 6'.
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Re: New Project.
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I suspect the step side bed lengths did not change over the years. The 50s trucks had 2 options for step side beds, a 7 1/2' and a 9' version. By the late 50s, the the 9' was a special order.
In the 60s & 70s, bed length choices were short box, long box, 7 1/2' step side and special order 9' step side. The step side boxes are interchangeable (short for short, long for long) from 54 through 82, so one would assume the length, per size, remained the same.
A 7 1/2' (or a 9') long box will not swap onto a frame with a 6 1/2' (sorry I called it a 6' box) or an 8' box without something being changed, probably frame length on the 6 1/2' box, or the bumper brackets on the 8' box.
The question was: Will a step side box fit on my 73-93 club cab frame. The answer is not without modification. A short box or a long box 73-93 frame has different modification requirements. Gene
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Re: New Project.
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Gene, I think you are forgetting there is a short Utiline bed which is roughly the same length as the 6.5' Sweptline bed. They've been around since at least 1961 and probably longer. In order to put a short Utiline bed on a 61-71 truck that originally had a wide bed requires cutting 2.5" off the rear of the frame. I don't know if that is the case with 72-93 trucks.
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Re: New Project.
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My plan is to put a 1993 Club cab, on a regular cab, 8 foot bed chassie, with a step side bed, Short bed,
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Re: New Project.
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I'm not very knowledgeable about the 61 to 71 trucks, but it seems like the wheelbase and bed length was changed some time around 1967. I'm not certain if this change affected the length of the steps side beds though. It is an interesting question though. The wheelbase on the longbed trucks changed in mid 65. The bed did change as the wheelwell was in a different spot. I don't think the overall bed length changed much though.
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Re: New Project.
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My plan is to put a 1993 Club cab, on a regular cab, 8 foot bed chassie, with a step side bed, Short bed,
Will the cab even fit without modifying the frame?
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Re: New Project.
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My plan is to put a 1993 Club cab, on a regular cab, 8 foot bed chassie, with a step side bed, Short bed,
Will the cab even fit without modifying the frame? Probably not. The 73-93 full size frame has a kick up behind the cab. On a standard cab frame, the kick up is closer to the front then it is on a club cab frame. I don't believe there is enough room between the cab floor & the frame to accommodate that kick up when going from a standard cab to a club cab. The club cab will be sitting higher in the rear. A 2"-3" body lift would probably solve that problem though. I suspect the step side box will be hanging off the frame by at least a foot, and it will be surprising if the rear wheels end up anywhere close to be located correctly. I believe you need to find some trucks and do some serious measuring. That is probably the only way your going to get a real answer. We can't even agree on the length of the different boxes, and your throwing different cabs and different frames into the mix. Gene
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