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New Project.

Posted By: scannman70

New Project. - 06/17/15 07:15 PM

I know Dodge never made one, But has any one ever seen a 72-93 Style Club Cab with a step side bed?

Think club cab warlock, 4 wheel drive...
Posted By: Soopernaut

Re: New Project. - 06/17/15 08:04 PM

Could Dodge have built them if someone ordered one? I never even noticed that this combination doesn't seem to exist.

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Posted By: HotRodDave

Re: New Project. - 06/17/15 08:05 PM

I have a 75 club cab short bed for sale but not a step side, never heard of one.
Posted By: 76dodgeboy

Re: New Project. - 06/18/15 01:21 AM

I've got a couple I'm tossing Stepside beds on for the wife
Posted By: 79powerwagon

Re: New Project. - 06/18/15 01:57 AM

I've seen the 4 door crews with step side boxes, mostly forestry trucks.
Posted By: rickstershemi

Re: New Project. - 06/20/15 12:11 AM

Back in the day you could special order some oddball chit if you had the money and patience to wait......my cousin ordered an early 70's F100 with a 427 and 4-speed back in the day....he was a Dealership Sales Manager. I actually picked it up for him....sweet ride.

Rickster
Posted By: redraptor

Re: New Project. - 06/20/15 01:28 AM

Originally Posted By scannman70
I know Dodge never made one, But has any one ever seen a 72-93 Style Club Cab with a step side bed?

Think club cab warlock, 4 wheel drive...


Someone not far from here had one. Green with white stripes IIRC. I think they rate along the lines of 8' step bed trucks. Not many and you HAVE to like the look. twocents
Posted By: poorboy

Re: New Project. - 06/20/15 03:32 AM

The step side bed is actually 7 1/2' long, where a short box is 6' long. You would need to use the long box (8') club cab & have really short bumper brackets. Gene
Posted By: Soopernaut

Re: New Project. - 06/20/15 02:47 PM

Originally Posted By poorboy
The step side bed is actually 7 1/2' long, where a short box is 6' long. You would need to use the long box (8') club cab & have really short bumper brackets. Gene


The short Utiline beds were roughly the same length as the short Sweptline beds. Nobody specified long or short bed in this thread. The short bed is 6.5', not 6'.
Posted By: poorboy

Re: New Project. - 06/22/15 08:54 PM

I suspect the step side bed lengths did not change over the years. The 50s trucks had 2 options for step side beds, a 7 1/2' and a 9' version. By the late 50s, the the 9' was a special order.

In the 60s & 70s, bed length choices were short box, long box, 7 1/2' step side and special order 9' step side.
The step side boxes are interchangeable (short for short, long for long) from 54 through 82, so one would assume the length, per size, remained the same.

A 7 1/2' (or a 9') long box will not swap onto a frame with a 6 1/2' (sorry I called it a 6' box) or an 8' box without something being changed, probably frame length on the 6 1/2' box, or the bumper brackets on the 8' box.

The question was: Will a step side box fit on my 73-93 club cab frame. The answer is not without modification. A short box or a long box 73-93 frame has different modification requirements. Gene
Posted By: Soopernaut

Re: New Project. - 06/23/15 07:32 PM

Gene, I think you are forgetting there is a short Utiline bed which is roughly the same length as the 6.5' Sweptline bed. They've been around since at least 1961 and probably longer. In order to put a short Utiline bed on a 61-71 truck that originally had a wide bed requires cutting 2.5" off the rear of the frame. I don't know if that is the case with 72-93 trucks.
Posted By: QuickDodge

Re: New Project. - 06/24/15 05:35 AM

I'm not very knowledgeable about the 61 to 71 trucks, but it seems like the wheelbase and bed length was changed some time around 1967. I'm not certain if this change affected the length of the steps side beds though. It is an interesting question though.
Posted By: scannman70

Re: New Project. - 06/24/15 07:22 PM

My plan is to put a 1993 Club cab, on a regular cab, 8 foot bed chassie, with a step side bed, Short bed,

Six inch all spring lift, 3/4 ton rears.

and a 440 Magnum, from a 1969 Charger, that is currently in my 72 dodge half ton, 4 wheel drive.

The 4 speed, Trans and transfer case will also make the swap.
Posted By: Soopernaut

Re: New Project. - 06/24/15 08:11 PM

Originally Posted By QuickDodge
I'm not very knowledgeable about the 61 to 71 trucks, but it seems like the wheelbase and bed length was changed some time around 1967. I'm not certain if this change affected the length of the steps side beds though. It is an interesting question though.


The wheelbase on the longbed trucks changed in mid 65. The bed did change as the wheelwell was in a different spot. I don't think the overall bed length changed much though.
Posted By: Soopernaut

Re: New Project. - 06/24/15 08:13 PM

Originally Posted By scannman70
My plan is to put a 1993 Club cab, on a regular cab, 8 foot bed chassie, with a step side bed, Short bed,



Will the cab even fit without modifying the frame?
Posted By: dogdays

Re: New Project. - 06/24/15 09:16 PM

'64 longbed 122" wheelbase the '64 will have four headlights and round taillights, also a single wall bed, two piece rear axle shafts. Brake cylinders have one piston.

'65 longbed 128" wheelbase the '65 will have two headlights and comma-shaped taillights, also double wall bed, one piece axle shafts. Brake cylinders have two pistons.

As mentioned the switchover came somewhere in the early '65 model year. I used the model years as generally true, though I have seen MY '65 trucks looking like '64s.

There were a lot of other changes that are invisible to the untrained eye, but will bite anyone who is trying to piece together a Sweptline and thinks "they are all the same".

I know, it happened to me!

R.
Posted By: poorboy

Re: New Project. - 06/25/15 05:00 AM

Originally Posted By Soopernaut
Originally Posted By scannman70
My plan is to put a 1993 Club cab, on a regular cab, 8 foot bed chassie, with a step side bed, Short bed,



Will the cab even fit without modifying the frame?


Probably not. The 73-93 full size frame has a kick up behind the cab. On a standard cab frame, the kick up is closer to the front then it is on a club cab frame. I don't believe there is enough room between the cab floor & the frame to accommodate that kick up when going from a standard cab to a club cab. The club cab will be sitting higher in the rear. A 2"-3" body lift would probably solve that problem though.
I suspect the step side box will be hanging off the frame by at least a foot, and it will be surprising if the rear wheels end up anywhere close to be located correctly.

I believe you need to find some trucks and do some serious measuring. That is probably the only way your going to get a real answer. We can't even agree on the length of the different boxes, and your throwing different cabs and different frames into the mix. shock Gene
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