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Re: Tubular UCA options [Re: jcc] #1841356
06/04/15 01:03 PM
06/04/15 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted By jcc
Originally Posted By 72Swinger
Competent, that should cover it.


iagree, because if there is any sort of problem, its easy to say, that's proof enough the installer was not competent as required.


Good luck with that. Competent is subjective. What is compentent to one person could be incompetent to another. You need something objecttive to measure against.

Re: Tubular UCA options [Re: Wildjones] #1841551
06/04/15 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted By Wildjones


Good luck with that. Competent is subjective. What is compentent to one person could be incompetent to another. You need something objecttive to measure against.


Agreed, which is why ASE, for all it's issues, is about the only nationwide certification setup that'll be relevant. A judge isn't interested in anecdotal "I am competent, no you're not" arguments. All that will matter is that some third party "recognized" authority says you are, and for all intents and purposes that is ASE.


They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
Re: Tubular UCA options [Re: Supercuda] #1841591
06/04/15 06:18 PM
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Because competent can be argued both ways, and if one says they are competent, they have to prove it, and one says you are not they have to prove it. Judge doesn't care, he only cares who proves their point by 51%. Of course its subjective, that is the point. If you want 100%, don't buy or sell anything.

Read the ASE test thread, doesn't sound like it proves anything to me.

Sounds like a scene in "Idiocracy":

Lawyer: "are you a competent installer?"
Witness: "I have an ASE certification"
lawyer: "Did you install the plaintiffs A arm upside down?"
Witness: "I have an ASE certification"

Last edited by jcc; 06/04/15 06:26 PM.

Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: Tubular UCA options [Re: AlexP] #1842254
06/05/15 05:35 PM
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I wonder if being an A&P would qualify me as competent? Need to work 30 months as an apprentice and 6 exams before getting my license to learn...


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