AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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I picked up this carb a while back...the guy had a lot of 67-68 440 parts. Any idea what this is from...year...engine...model? Thx all...
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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These are the numbers on the RF of the baseplate... Maybe D8 440 1S?
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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Its an AVS. You can tell from the dimpled covers over the metering rods. AVS's used dimpled because of the three step metering rods. AFB's used flat due to two step rods. 3 step rods are longer than 2's.
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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I was thinking that Ma stopped venting the bowl to the atmosphere in the 68 + model years for emission regs (you see the bowl vent on top with the black round neoprene cover) but the numbers dont lie. Yes convert it eddy 2 step rods/shorter pri jets & I'd start with the cruise step several tho smaller than what the 3 step rod has now. Fill the metering rod caps with JBweld then cover em with scotch tape & invert em so the mud settles flat on the bottom & let em set up like that for a day or so
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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Its an AVS. You can tell from the dimpled covers over the metering rods. AVS's used dimpled because of the three step metering rods. AFB's used flat due to two step rods. 3 step rods are longer than 2's. Most Chrysler OEM AFBs also used three-step rods and the raised covers. The air horn is the obvious giveaway with the exposed air valve secondary (A.V.S.)
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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Its an AVS. You can tell from the dimpled covers over the metering rods. AVS's used dimpled because of the three step metering rods. AFB's used flat due to two step rods. 3 step rods are longer than 2's. Some Chrysler OEM AFBs also used three-step rods and the raised covers.CORRECTED The air horn is the obvious giveaway with the exposed air valve secondary (A.V.S.)
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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Also note that this is a 625 CFM carb and the adjusting screw is Left Hand threaded. Note also that it is for a High Performance Automatic Car. If it was a 750 CFM AVS, All 4 of the butterflies would be the same size. That is the easiest way to just flip over an AVS and know if its 625 or 750 CFM. As you see here the primaries are smaller. Most 440 AVS carbs are 750 CFM. 68 HP 4-Speed carb would be number 4426S Hope this helps even more.
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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Hope this helps even more. good stuff!
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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Don't suppose you're planning to crack that thing open any time soon? hint hint I'm trying to put my AVS back together and am not quite if the float clips that came in my kit are the right ones. Love a look inside that thing if you get curious and open it up. Here's a link to my post on the topic showing what I need pics of. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/ubbt...ght.html#UNREAD Few tips in the event you do take it apart. Take the metering rods covers off and the rod/piston assys out first so you don't bend the rods putting the top back on afterwards. Top goes back on THEN the metering rod/vacuum piston assys drop back in after that. And snap a few pics of the linkages outside b4 u disassemble it and then the inside b4 you start taking the guts out. Its much easier to put back together that way. (as in I SHOULD HAVE done that...LOL) Thanks, Dave
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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Thanks anyway. I'm sure someone will come up with a pic...or I'll just pinch the clips a bit and hope it works out. Here's a link you might like. Full list of Carter carbs and parts with exploded views. Everything xcept those clips of course...they don't even appear in my paper instructions! Guess there's no Chinese word for float clip...LOL!!! It's a PDF file so it takes a minute to load. Carter carbs - exploded views-parts list - WALKER
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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4966s is 1971 440 auto non hp 625cfm is a good guess. It's definitely the smaller of the 2 versions.
As Moparjunkyard stated on p1 of this thread, the AVS with equal butterflies on all 4 corners is approx 750cfm but numbers were never officially released.
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Re: AFB or AVS Carb identification...
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4966s is 1971 440 auto non hp 625cfm is a good guess. It's definitely the smaller of the 2 versions.
As Moparjunkyard stated on p1 of this thread, the AVS with equal butterflies on all 4 corners is approx 750cfm but numbers were never officially released. Thanks for the info. This one does have smaller primaries.
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