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Barton/T&D Hemi rockers #1787534
03/24/15 09:40 PM
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Who's got the barton T&D Hemi rocker assembly on their gen11 Hemi, Pro's and con's of using the single rocker system.


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Re: Barton/T&D Hemi rockers [Re: rowin4] #1787535
03/25/15 12:06 AM
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Stuttgart, Arkansas
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Depends on your application. Stock type rockers (even if you use roller rocker arms) are stone simple, will never tear up and make enough power for most everybody. The Ray Barton rocker system will give you capability to do things I don't do, like running a 9500 RPM Super Stocker. It is top quality, like everything Ray does, but too complicated for my application. I don't have a 9500 RPM car. It uses spray bar oiling. I like the stock way. If you need 1000 HP, go for it.


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Re: Barton/T&D Hemi rockers [Re: rickseeman] #1787536
03/25/15 12:57 AM
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Like everything for a Hemi , Bartons/T&D Rocker assembly is expensive at $3500 bucks , Stage V is now pretty close to that also. I just can't see paying $1500. bucks for a rocker assembly from 1970 era that who knows what ratio they are.



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Re: Barton/T&D Hemi rockers [Re: rowin4] #1787537
03/25/15 10:04 AM
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Temperance, MI
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got it on my street car. money well spent as far as im concerned. I contribute that to it living on the street for 9 hard years

Re: Barton/T&D Hemi rockers [Re: prochargedhemi] #1787538
03/25/15 12:09 PM
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Utah and Alaska
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I went with StageV because when I was pricing the T&D's, I was getting quoted almost $5K because I am not a racer with an account with most vendors. Tim


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Re: Barton/T&D Hemi rockers [Re: ] #1787540
03/25/15 03:21 PM
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Quote:

Harlan Sharps on my 440-1 Indy headed engine was over $1150 and that was years ago.
Look what your getting for the price.


Hemi versus wedge, definite difference in price and product.


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Re: Barton/T&D Hemi rockers [Re: Cab_Burge] #1787541
03/25/15 04:44 PM
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Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
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I would swap my Indy ones for a set of the Barton style rockers if they were priced the same, but at the moment, mine work just fine, and these engines cost enough money to build....


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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Re: Barton/T&D Hemi rockers [Re: Dragula] #1787542
03/25/15 07:33 PM
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I have used them for 6 years in my hemi S/S car. It seems if you keep the RPM under 8500 it is a solid system. They will break the studs off if you go over that, and I never try to idle the engine much because the system relies on the spray bars to oil the push rod tips, which spray at the intake only and rely on splash for the exhaust. Ray has a new system for the blocks with the relocated lifters and stronger rocker studs.

Re: Barton/T&D Hemi rockers [Re: rowin4] #1787543
03/25/15 09:07 PM
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I have had them for over 10 years and feel they were worth every penny. The lash holds really well which is a plus if you`ve had to lash a Hemi in an a-body and have to pull the master cylinder just to get the valve covers off frequently. I have had cheap ductile iron rocker arms on small blocks before. Never again ! Get them they are worth it !



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Re: Barton/T&D Hemi rockers [Re: chryco] #1787544
03/26/15 02:51 AM
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I installed one set. It was an odd combo, not least for the .12" thick head gaskets and I had to move things around to make them fit decently. I also converted them to pushrod oiling.


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