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WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. #1779846
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Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: pittsburghracer] #1779847
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Holy Cow!!! That was crazy, hope he's alright. What the heck causes that?

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A combo of toooo much wing on the front and rear of the car ?

Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #1779849
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Front downforce and rear downforce create center lift...

Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: carcrazyguy] #1779850
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Car had a new front half put on. And was a 2010 chassis.


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Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1779851
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Jack "300 Bowl" Ostrander had the same thing happen at the Gators 20 years ago. The car broke in the center from the load between the front and rear wings.

Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: BeEtLeJuIcE !] #1779852
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A combo of toooo much wing on the front and rear of the car ?



Not in my book, the wings were doing what they were supposed to, applying DF, which allowed the available HP to accelerate the car, causing the front end to try and lift, enough to the point the chassis failed. Its chassis failure.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: jcc] #1779853
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A combo of toooo much wing on the front and rear of the car ?



Not in my book, the wings were doing what they were supposed to, applying DF, which allowed the available HP to accelerate the car, causing the front end to try and lift, enough to the point the chassis failed. Its chassis failure.



It just flat buckled in the front 1/3 of the chassis.


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Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: jcc] #1779854
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A combo of toooo much wing on the front and rear of the car ?



Not in my book, the wings were doing what they were supposed to, applying DF, which allowed the available HP to accelerate the car, causing the front end to try and lift, enough to the point the chassis failed. Its chassis failure.




Doc called it right, if it didn't have more wing than the chassis could handle it wouldn't have failed.

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A combo of toooo much wing on the front and rear of the car ?



Not in my book, the wings were doing what they were supposed to, applying DF, which allowed the available HP to accelerate the car, causing the front end to try and lift, enough to the point the chassis failed. Its chassis failure.




Doc called it right, if it didn't have more wing than the chassis could handle it wouldn't have failed.




Or if it has less HP, or less tire, or less traction, or testosterone, or less etc


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Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: jcc] #1779856
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looks like the chromemoly tube broke.

Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: lewtot184] #1779857
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Same thing happened to Tony Schumacher in 2000.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I966mNsrOb0


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Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: Rhinodart] #1779858
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The chassis was from 2010, it was wore out. The hp strain over powered the metal fatigue and it snapped the chassis.


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Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: Rhinodart] #1779859
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Same thing happened to Larry also at Memphis when he was driving for Snake when Lahaie was crew chief. Almost identical except in Memphis, lugs sheared and tire shot up, had to have been 300 feet in the air, came down 12 rows over in the west-side parking lot, bounced at least 4 times before it disappeared. Can't remember the exact year, think it was 2001, Tony also had a bad crash on Saturday where the wing collapsed and sent him over the wall, (different from the blowover above)really scary cause Tony was tumbling in the cage right next to the engine tumbling.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-AnL9FLlvZY

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Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1779860
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The chassis was from 2010, it was wore out. The hp strain over powered the metal fatigue and it snapped the chassis.


That old chassis was tweaked in the high end by down force on every run and it finally failed.

Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1779861
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The chassis was from 2010, it was wore out. The hp strain over powered the metal fatigue and it snapped the chassis.




Thats all I think it was.. it was old

Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: carcrazyguy] #1779862
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Front downforce and rear downforce create center lift...




The chassis will arch , but it is definitely not caused by lift as I understand the term.
The rear wheels are trying to drive past the fronts and the front wing provided enough downforce to prevent a wheel stand and the tubes arched to the point of failure.
Dixon said in a post crash interview that the car only had 50 passes on it.
He seemed O.K. , but Man.......what a ride !
I always liked him as a driver , so I hope he can bounce back and return to the track.
I don't know if Vandergriff has a spare car or not.

Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: lewtot184] #1779863
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looks like the chromemoly tube broke.




Chromemoly can't break?

Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: Moe] #1779864
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Wow lucky!

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Re: WOW. Larry Dixons Top Fuel wreck today. [Re: 1967dartgt] #1779865
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Does this indicate that NHRA needs to require thicker tubing in that area? Reduce stress to increase fatique life? I don't think a little extra weight is going to hurt the speed of that class.


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