Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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After initial setup on my Dana I can change gears in a half hour or less. Never had to run pro gears either. We ran a ring gear that had a broken pinion with a pinion from a broken gear, and ran them together for one season till we came across a used set to 50 bucks. Dana is just strong, don't under estimate it. Unless you run heads up racing why do want to have extra gear sets ready is beyond me.
Your faster than ANYONE I've seen(if your doing it right).. I helped 2 guys on drag week (1 chevy and 1 mopar.. 12 bolt and a dana) change gears laying on the ground.. its not fun... and both took WELL over 2 hours... but I'm slow I guess(I dont do it for a living)
I have to call BS on the less than half hour. maybe if you just slap them in there with out checking and setting them up.
If you were to set up the patterns for the ratios you need during the beginning build and save the shim packs, it would be pretty quick to swap. Especially if the ring gear was on a spare spool. 30 minutes is way quick. If the axles were slid out, and drive shaft out it would be pretty quick. Doug
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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03/05/15 09:34 AM
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After initial setup on my Dana I can change gears in a half hour or less. Never had to run pro gears either. We ran a ring gear that had a broken pinion with a pinion from a broken gear, and ran them together for one season till we came across a used set to 50 bucks. Dana is just strong, don't under estimate it. Unless you run heads up racing why do want to have extra gear sets ready is beyond me.
Your faster than ANYONE I've seen(if your doing it right).. I helped 2 guys on drag week (1 chevy and 1 mopar.. 12 bolt and a dana) change gears laying on the ground.. its not fun... and both took WELL over 2 hours... but I'm slow I guess(I dont do it for a living)
I have to call BS on the less than half hour. maybe if you just slap them in there with out checking and setting them up.
If you were to set up the patterns for the ratios you need during the beginning build and save the shim packs, it would be pretty quick to swap. Especially if the ring gear was on a spare spool. 30 minutes is way quick. If the axles were slid out, and drive shaft out it would be pretty quick. Doug
maybe if you used the same manufacturer, but from what I have seen they are not even close. and if it was on a bench would make a huge difference from being in a car. I just don't see it anyway. I would have to see it
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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03/05/15 11:41 AM
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Had my 9" rears before and they were fine, but went with a Dana this time. Have WAY less in it than an identically equipped 9" and super strong for my needs with room to grow. Truck case, welded tubes, 35 spl floater hubs, 5/8" studs 35 spline floater axles Eaton Detroit Locker 4.10 Motive Gears ARP stud/caps Strange yoke rear alum cover/girdle c/m brace disc brakes Swapping gears isn't a requirement/issue for me
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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My as well buy all the 9"s also, sell them to the other side of this posting. make twice as much money.
It's been done..........about 25 years ago I was shopping for N cases and 31 spline trac loc stuff at a large yard around here. The owner told me that two guys stop by regularly and clean him out of all the 9' stuff they can get. One from Ohio and one from California. Aftermarket cases were right around the corner then........now we have quite a few choices from Chi Com to pretty nice. If the 8 3/4 decides to cease being a useful member of society on me , it will be a 9" because it is what I know. It's not that I dislike a Dana. They are plenty sturdy. No doubt. The h.p. I give away isn't enough for me to lose a second's sleep over. So versatility and familiarity win here.
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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This all comes down to buy what you can afford, and be happy with your decision. Axles, gears, bearings, spools, yokes etc. all cost nearly the same from one rear to another. Now when it comes to weight and strength, that is where the $$$ comes into play. Want a cheaper rear? Install the Dana but accept the weight that goes along with it. BOTH are strong rears, and CAN get the job done.
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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03/05/15 03:13 PM
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Your axles will work for in a dana 60 as well as a ford nine inch. You just need to tell the manufacturer to put Mopar ends on or weld them on your self. Then your existing brakes will also work. Same for both rear ends.
the next poster says I am wrong on the dana 60 that the axles are different lengths. I do know the nine inch will work.
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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03/05/15 03:15 PM
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Will the axles from my 8 3/4" work in a same length Dana?
No. 8 3/4" axles are the same length. Dana 60 axles are different by an inch from side-to-side. They are the same otherwise. (B/E body style.)
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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03/05/15 04:00 PM
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So much arrogance in this thread...
x2 on the junkyard D60, for mild street/strip it makes no sense to blow $3k+ on a rear when one can be pieced together for around $1k
Apparently your your math skills aren't to good. As I stated a few posts above this it was 1590.00 for complete rear not 3000. This is all new parts not used pieced together stuff, call and get delivered to your house.
It's not new. They are refurbished housings and ends. New ends and housing are additional cost.
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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So much arrogance in this thread...
x2 on the junkyard D60, for mild street/strip it makes no sense to blow $3k+ on a rear when one can be pieced together for around $1k
Apparently your your math skills aren't to good. As I stated a few posts above this it was 1590.00 for complete rear not 3000. This is all new parts not used pieced together stuff, call and get delivered to your house.
I'm going off the $2000 center sections people are posting. Add axles, narrowed housing and brace, brakes, bearings, etc etc it's roughly $3000. Even going by your price of $1590, I can beat that with a 30 spline D60 put together from junkyard parts for less than $1000, and it'll do just fine in most street/strip cars.
I can also put together a cheap 31 spline 9 inch from junkyard parts...but comparing that to a junkyard D60 I'll chose the dana.
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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Will the axles from my 8 3/4" work in a same length Dana?
No. 8 3/4" axles are the same length. Dana 60 axles are different by an inch from side-to-side. They are the same otherwise. (B/E body style.)
Yes, i always center the housing with same length axles, pinion offset just like engine, do you offset the 8 3/4-8 1/4-9 1/4-olds-9 inch with different length tubes? If the rear is very narrow, there's no problem with the link brackets being equal. I used the axles and ends off the 8 3/4 i broke after 25 passes, been there since 92
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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So much arrogance in this thread...
x2 on the junkyard D60, for mild street/strip it makes no sense to blow $3k+ on a rear when one can be pieced together for around $1k
Apparently your your math skills aren't to good. As I stated a few posts above this it was 1590.00 for complete rear not 3000. This is all new parts not used pieced together stuff, call and get delivered to your house.
I'm going off the $2000 center sections people are posting. Add axles, narrowed housing and brace, brakes, bearings, etc etc it's roughly $3000. Even going by your price of $1590, I can beat that with a 30 spline D60 put together from junkyard parts for less than $1000, and it'll do just fine in most street/strip cars.
I can also put together a cheap 31 spline 9 inch from junkyard parts...but comparing that to a junkyard D60 I'll chose the dana.
I post three center sections 990, 1219, 1290 in costs and you choose the one someone says they have over 2000 in it to compair. Buy the way you can buy that one for 1200 so it's still not 2000.
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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So much arrogance in this thread...
x2 on the junkyard D60, for mild street/strip it makes no sense to blow $3k+ on a rear when one can be pieced together for around $1k
Apparently your your math skills aren't to good. As I stated a few posts above this it was 1590.00 for complete rear not 3000. This is all new parts not used pieced together stuff, call and get delivered to your house.
I'm going off the $2000 center sections people are posting. Add axles, narrowed housing and brace, brakes, bearings, etc etc it's roughly $3000. Even going by your price of $1590, I can beat that with a 30 spline D60 put together from junkyard parts for less than $1000, and it'll do just fine in most street/strip cars.
I can also put together a cheap 31 spline 9 inch from junkyard parts...but comparing that to a junkyard D60 I'll chose the dana.
I post three center sections 990, 1219, 1290 in costs and you choose the one someone says they have over 2000 in it to compair. Buy the way you can buy that one for 1200 so it's still not 2000.
and thats a hell of a deal
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Re: Expensive 9 inch rears!
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Not that I could care less what any one runs for a rear end but I find it strange that the drag pack cars run a 9"... I run a 8 3/4 and a 9" in my cars.. its what I had to put in them
Al Carps drag pak car that Barton races and is the fastest DP car runs a D60 in it.
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