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Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #1764000
03/01/15 01:55 PM
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As shown in the video,the shield isn't on there.

Here's a pic of clearance to the windage tray.




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Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: KnuckleDuster] #1764001
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Dipstick rattling against tray?

Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: CrazyD] #1764002
03/01/15 05:41 PM
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Sorry. Didn't watch the video as it never would play for me.
Did you see Johns post asking about converter depth?


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Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: I_bleed_MOPAR] #1764003
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Cannot tell how close it is from the pic angles, but could it be pickup tube rattling against the windage tray?


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Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: KnuckleDuster] #1764004
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As noted the only thing(s) that were changed that took it from quiet to hitting was welding the baffles in the pan and the TC change? No pan change?, no w tray change?, no pump change (gasket/no gasket between pump/#5 cap)?, no bending of w tray?. I couldn't play the video either, they wanted me to subscribe . The pan baffles are all well below the w tray correct? Same pan gasket (thickness in other words). The tinny sound sure sounds like w tray but sounds like your visual (not the pics) is looking OK there. I'd stay on the TC/shield. Keep us posted. Are you SURE nothing is hitting the tray? EDIT wouldn't that be a bite if it IS the dipstick

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Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: RapidRobert] #1764005
03/01/15 09:04 PM
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It's in the pan near the #3 cap, I can feel it now.
I think baffles tweaking the tray nailed it...
Rod bolt bareley kissing the tray. Looking at my pics the tray looks slightly elliptical.
The pickup was a little loose but I tightened it another 360°, and doubt it would transmit through the pan so well. I guess I just couldn't pinpoint it yesterday, but today I can press on the pan and hear a very slight tone change.

I guess I get to pull the whole deal out again.
I really hoped it was bolts rubbing but after watching it run with a maglight I can see they are not even close to hitting anything.

Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: KnuckleDuster] #1764006
03/02/15 03:14 PM
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Since I am tearing it all apart again, I went ahead and sprung for a Kevko M302 pan and pickup.Gonna delete the windage tray. Hopefully this will be the last time I pull this engine for many years.

Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: KnuckleDuster] #1764007
03/10/15 05:38 PM
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Looks like the tang over the oil pump on the windage tray got pushed in on the driver side and the #5 rod was just grazing it.I pulled it back out with my pinky.Probably bumped it over installing the pan, tray is so malleable...grrrr...nothing but noise.






Don't see a need for the tray with the Kevko pan while it's apart,so deleting the tray.

Can I use my piston stop to block the engine up to tighten my converter bolts without damaging the forged aluminum piston,or should I use rope in the cylinder?

Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: KnuckleDuster] #1764008
03/10/15 06:24 PM
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I sure wouldn't use the piston stop. It wasn't meant for that. Just block the flexplate with a big screwdriver. You just need to get the bolts tight not break them off.

Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: stumpy] #1764009
03/11/15 02:40 AM
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Stick a hammer handle in the way of the crank. Back off crank once done, then roll the engine forward again


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Re: Something hitting, can't tell what... [Re: SomeCarGuy] #1764010
03/11/15 09:14 AM
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Screwdriver trick worked,gave the wrench a few light taps with a rubber mallet.

Thanks for all the help everyone!

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