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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Eric] #1757332
02/20/15 05:48 PM
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Start with one word WOW. This is quite a thread. I just wonder how far does the policing of your personal life go. Is NHRA going to watch every YOUTUBE video and give all that participate in such acceleration videos the boot out of NHRA for performing a pass on a street or Hwy that might have their NHRA number or a NHRA sticker on the vehicle. How about all those bikes that do stunt driving videos and might belong to NHRA are they getting the boot. The future drag racers with their Tuners do a lot of high speed racing, 50MPH on , 70MPH on, I do not here NHRA crying about them. The Internet is full of all kinds of stuff with crazy acceleration videos or people just having fun. It is your choice to do it and if you get hurt it is your fault. I use to drag race on the street every weekend years ago. Then decided to go to the track again running a class car and the car got faster and the cost got to be so expensive with little or no pay out that you go back to the street and have fun again. The expense is a direct correlation on how fast you go, but the pay out at the track does not have that correlation rate and are much lower. It gets to be if you win every week it still does not pay for your expenses and that does not include the rebuild during the year or at the end of the year and all those safety upgrades that appear every year in the rule books. Good luck NHRA, you cant afford to run your own show and now you want another expense of policing my and other fun.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Eric] #1757333
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I don't know why we have all this hate for the NHRA here, they are just saying if you want to go out and do silly things, please take our logos and numbers off your car. I don't see it as a big deal.

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1757334
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If it's truly about the sticker/car number production should just blur it out and call it a day.

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: CTD5.9] #1757335
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On a side note there are towns in Oklahoma that block off streets for drag racing. Not 150mph cars but fun never the less. No body gets their panties in a wad.

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: gdonovan] #1757336
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Ah, well, just off the top of my head how about speed limits?




1) Since the road is being closed off for an event they may not apply.

2) The states have the right to set the speed limits as they see fit. Mind you on the interstate (a federal road) you can lose federal funding in some cases if you don't do as the feds advise.

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I also believe that street racing (acceleration contests?) is illegal in all 48 contiguous US states at the least.




Please provide the federal statute. You are the one making the claim, I'm not aware of any such statute.

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How about up there in Taxineticut?




"No person shall operate a motor vehicle upon any public highway for a wager or for any race or for the purpose of making a speed record."

Note it states PUBLIC HIGHWAY. If the road is not public (in example blocked off for an event) then the statute does not apply. Hell depending on what the state terms "a public highway" it might not apply to local roads under town jurisdiction.

Doesn't matter they can skin the cat anyway they want to- Speeding, reckless driving, etc.

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Again just because the LEO's are allowing it, that doesn't make it illegal.




The town officials are ALLOWING this to happen. You know permits and stuff. Filming a show like this doesn't happen in a vacuum.

Just like in RI law enforcement was on board since the town was hosting this event since it brings in money to a popular tourist attraction.




Laws and ordinances are suspended for special events all the time. And in most cases, local state attorneys have near total discretion when deciding whether to prosecute non-violent crime.

We used to go to Heath for the Moparty when we were at the 'Nats. Burn-outs were permitted all over the main drag with the law in plain site. The Chief of Police would get his squad out and do them for a donation to a charity.

Man, it looked like the town was on fire. Great fun! And legal, too. So...............


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: DaveRS23] #1757337
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"Laws and ordinances are suspended for special events all the time"

Not enforced and not prosecuted are lot different then "suspended" IMO, one takes an action and the other simply inaction.


Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Chassisman] #1757338
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And then there is THIS tid bit.....seems the wheels are falling off the NHRA....

RUMOR! NHRA SELLS THREE PRO CLASSES

DRO has verified as fact that Tom Compton and the NHRA board hired a financial company in the Los Angeles area more than two months ago to package and sell the top three pro classes (Top Fuel, Funny Car and Pro Stock) to an entertainment company. The Agent has the name of the company but has been unable to contact them yet. DRO’s source said today that there is an entertainment company that has agreed to terms. We have been unable to verify that rumor as of 6 p.m. (Central) Wednesday, Feb. 18.

Selling off their top three pro classes was one of the options that was discussed when Tom Compton tried to sell the NHRA to Direct TV majordomo Eddy Hartenstein and his HD Partners group back in 2007. Our source says the deal that NHRA made was essentially the same one they had in 2007 when an attempted sale fell through at the last minute. In the original deal NHRA would sell the pro classes and as part of the sale a large chunk of the buyout money would go to the NHRA to ensure that the sportsman part of the NHRA would continue on. As we understand it that is the same type of deal the new sale would be.

The Agent always felt that selling off the NHRA top three pro classes wasn’t a viable or smart option since none of the racers in those classes works for the NHRA; they are all independent contractors who can race where and when they wish. On the other hand, maybe a professional entertainment group can sell nitro sponsorships better than the NHRA can.

Stay tuned




welcome to 2014.
http://www.turbobullet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7197


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1757339
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And then there is THIS tid bit.....seems the wheels are falling off the NHRA....

RUMOR! NHRA SELLS THREE PRO CLASSES

DRO has verified as fact that Tom Compton and the NHRA board hired a financial company in the Los Angeles area more than two months ago to package and sell the top three pro classes (Top Fuel, Funny Car and Pro Stock) to an entertainment company. The Agent has the name of the company but has been unable to contact them yet. DRO’s source said today that there is an entertainment company that has agreed to terms. We have been unable to verify that rumor as of 6 p.m. (Central) Wednesday, Feb. 18.

Selling off their top three pro classes was one of the options that was discussed when Tom Compton tried to sell the NHRA to Direct TV majordomo Eddy Hartenstein and his HD Partners group back in 2007. Our source says the deal that NHRA made was essentially the same one they had in 2007 when an attempted sale fell through at the last minute. In the original deal NHRA would sell the pro classes and as part of the sale a large chunk of the buyout money would go to the NHRA to ensure that the sportsman part of the NHRA would continue on. As we understand it that is the same type of deal the new sale would be.

The Agent always felt that selling off the NHRA top three pro classes wasn’t a viable or smart option since none of the racers in those classes works for the NHRA; they are all independent contractors who can race where and when they wish. On the other hand, maybe a professional entertainment group can sell nitro sponsorships better than the NHRA can.

Stay tuned




welcome to 2014.
http://www.turbobullet.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=7197


... 2/18/15 ...agent 1320... was also whispers of it while we were at Winternationals then was brought up again last weekend at Wild Horse Pass..... its 2015 stuff now. Thanks

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Chassisman] #1757340
02/21/15 12:56 AM
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Found this a little while ago..kinda stupid but good for a laugh... https://plotagon.com/34092


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: skicker] #1757341
02/21/15 11:59 AM
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For all those that say closing down roads for racing can't be legal.
And to think Steve McQueen started this all 40 years ago in BULLITT
This video must have cost a mint. Shut down the streets of San Francisco. Wild Ride in San Francisco 652 hp Ford Focus. It's a Ford promo driven by one of the best drivers ever for this type of racing. I can't imagine what it cost for this commercial when you see how much of the city was shut down for this, all the cameras and the staging.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: jcc] #1757342
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"Laws and ordinances are suspended for special events all the time"

Not enforced and not prosecuted are lot different then "suspended" IMO, one takes an action and the other simply inaction.




Technically correct, but a difference without a distinction.

The guy doing the walks either way.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: DaveRS23] #1757343
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Let them.....I have an IHRA license, and there isn't a damn thing they can do about it.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: Dragula] #1757344
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I was at the Arizona Nationals NHRA event yesterday with a non drag race friend we were watching the top fuel cars get 1/2 way down the track then have something mess up on their car about 1/2 made a full pass. Then the 9.90 class started. He ask me how come running about 9.90 some would go through the traps going 165MPH and the guy he was racing would go also 9.90 running about 130MPH. I told him to listen as they would start off the line they would launch hard then go to a idle coasting down the track then a couple of seconds later the car would go back to full throttle and run a 9.90, He thought this was really strange, I told him some of those cars could run in the 7's He thought some of the things NHRA does is boring I guess this is why some fake street racing on a closed road on TV show is so popular

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: jose jones] #1757345
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I just find it funny how before the letters came out all the OKC nuthuggers were arguing the show is real. Now the same ones are arguing it's staged entertainment.


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: slantzilla] #1757346
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Want to be outlaw racers lol ,put your money where your mouth is and burn your NHRA competition licence and lets see who the real outlaws are .NHRA is not telling them to do anything , just making them aware of their actions have consequences if they want to participate at a NHRA track .
This show would work just as well if they film it at a real track , the race is only one small part of the package , there is enough drama in the pits at one event to make a entire season of TV shows .



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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: go green] #1757347
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Want to be outlaw racers lol ,put your money where your mouth is and burn your NHRA competition licence and lets see who the real outlaws are .NHRA is not telling them to do anything , just making them aware of their actions have consequences if they want to participate at a NHRA track .
This show would work just as well if they film it at a real track , the race is only one small part of the package , there is enough drama in the pits at one event to make a entire season of TV shows .


^^^The last part of this is funny but it's true^^^ but I think people likes the drama

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: slantzilla] #1757348
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in all their years nhra has NEVER been able to get their poop in the group on televising events.unless you are up at 3.35 am watching the gonad channel in booger west virginia.[nothing against those who live there].they are probably selling the entertainment rights or televising rights because they just cant get it right.they could care less about the average little guy racer.only the little guys wallet and patience for absolute bullpucky.never let them "fool" you or anybody else.they have a proven track record for screwing us all over every chance they get.until they have actual racers running this organization again,there isnt a chance in hell they will do anything to improve.....


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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: dakotawilly] #1757349
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Ok...I will admit that I enjoy the show. Granted there is drama that doesn't need to be there. But it is entertaining. Then there are those fellas from Fat and Furious. As much as I enjoy cars I can barely watch an entire episode. And is the NHRA going to pull that one dudes license because he goes down a track with out proper safety attire or is a sanctioning body going to pull licenses from fellas that are road racing without safety equipment? I doubt it. I don't think that program has the following of Street Outlaws. I think NHRA just wants a piece of pie that it isn't getting. Just because the NHRA are dumb azzes don't mean that you can be too. Just my opinion.

Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: go green] #1757350
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NHRA needs racers ($$$) far more than racers need NHRA.




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Re: nhra to pull street outlaw license if dont stop..... [Re: gdonovan] #1757351
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that pretty much sums it up....there will always be options and other venues for racers....this is starting to remind me of what nhra did back in 82.with the stroke of a pen wiped out d,e,f,g,and h gas,and also the lower half of modified.putting hundreds of racers out of a class without a care in the world.and to put salt on the wound put the top half of modified eliminator in with the comp class virtually eliminating anybody not running at least a second under their respective indexes.the rest got dumped into super stock.this was the first of many back stabs to the little guys....

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