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318-390 stroker which head to use #1745413
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built a 318-390 stroker and have a choice of eddy heads 202 160 valves and a set of indy x iron heads 192 162 valves. this is street strip engine.mostly strip thanks Bradley

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built a 318-390 stroker and have a choice of eddy heads 202 160 valves and a set of indy x iron heads 192 162 valves. this is street strip engine.mostly strip thanks Bradley




Check these out: http://immengines.com/indyimmironheads.html


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built a 318-390 stroker and have a choice of eddy heads 202 160 valves and a set of indy x iron heads 192 162 valves. this is street strip engine.mostly strip thanks Bradley




Check these out: http://immengines.com/indyimmironheads.html



that's what I was thinking. Have you done a sb stroker 6 pack with these heads ?

Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: roadrunnerreds] #1745416
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built a 318-390 stroker and have a choice of eddy heads 202 160 valves and a set of indy x iron heads 192 162 valves. this is street strip engine.mostly strip thanks Bradley




Do you have these heads now or are you buying.. if
you have them... then the eddy set with 2.02

Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: roadrunnerreds] #1745417
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i've got a new set of eq bare i'd let u have, pm me if interested,john

Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: roadrunnerreds] #1745418
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built a 318-390 stroker and have a choice of eddy heads 202 160 valves and a set of indy x iron heads 192 162 valves. this is street strip engine.mostly strip thanks Bradley



I'd go with the Eddy's. The weight savings is a bonus.


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Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: DusterDave] #1745419
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built a 318-390 stroker and have a choice of eddy heads 202 160 valves and a set of indy x iron heads 192 162 valves. this is street strip engine.mostly strip thanks Bradley



I'd go with the Eddy's. The weight savings is a bonus.




What does the weight bonus actually provide??


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built a 318-390 stroker and have a choice of eddy heads 202 160 valves and a set of indy x iron heads 192 162 valves. this is street strip engine.mostly strip thanks Bradley



I'd go with the Eddy's. The weight savings is a bonus.




What does the weight bonus actually provide??



It's got something to do with power to weight ratio, and front/rear weight bias. You should already know that.


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Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: DusterDave] #1745421
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So 40 extra pounds makes such a huge difference eh? Tell us Duster Dave, how much of a difference? Or should I already know that too??

My duster has always had a cast iron headed small block and yet it leaves hard with better than avg. 60ft.s. 40lbs. off the front end, all things being equal would not equate to very much if anything. But the 20-30 extra HP our Iron heads make over OOTB eddys would definitely amount to a very noticeable difference.
But I'm sure you already knew that!

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Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: Brian Hafliger] #1745422
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Thanks for the replies guys. Mr p body i already have both sets of heads. I got the indy heads thinking because the small bore( under 4 inch bore). What is the benefit of the beehive springs?

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If you already have both sets of heads, send the Edelbrocks to Brian (OU812) and have him port them. Best of both worlds. Or the iron heads, which seem to be a favorite of his.

Point is, this guy is a professional who knows his way around a smallblock head.

Beehive springs allow one to use a smaller retainer which takes mass out of the valvetrain, also the shape of the springs makes them less susceptible to harmonic vibration and one can usually use a beehive with a lower seat and/or open load.
Comp Cams really put the idea on the map.

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Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: roadrunnerreds] #1745426
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Thanks for the replies guys. Mr p body i already have both sets of heads. I got the indy heads thinking because the small bore( under 4 inch bore). What is the benefit of the beehive springs?




Being you already have the eddie's you would save the
40# on the front and you can also raise the compression
a bit and not fear detonation.. all pluses in my book

Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1745427
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Thanks for the replies guys. Mr p body i already have both sets of heads. I got the indy heads thinking because the small bore( under 4 inch bore). What is the benefit of the beehive springs?




Being you already have the eddie's you would save the
40# on the front and you can also raise the compression
a bit and not fear detonation.. all pluses in my book




Careful, Mr. P. Your comments might anger ou812! He's trying to make a sale here!


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Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: DusterDave] #1745428
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Let's explore this, based on a comment from above...

A given motor has 9.5:1 with iron heads and we add aluminum heads and get to 10.5:1. Are there REALLY any gains from the CR increase, being that aluminum dissipates heat so fast??

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I went 10.75@123 with IMM (Brian) ported eddies on my pump gas 390" engine with a solid cam. 3450#

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Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: cudadoug] #1745430
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Let's explore this, based on a comment from above...

A given motor has 9.5:1 with iron heads and we add aluminum heads and get to 10.5:1. Are there REALLY any gains from the CR increase, being that aluminum dissipates heat so fast??




In reality they pretty much became equal on the compression
aspect but the alum head is better on the detonation
and you still have the weight savings

Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1745431
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Iron VS aluminum is no significant power difference if both heads are the same otherwise. Aluminum ALLOWS more compression it does not NEED more compression. That myth has been disproved many times.

Unless traction is a big problem for you then I would sell the eddys and use the money to have Brian port the iron heads and still have money in my pocket.

I am building a motor for my own Dakota R/T with iron heads and will just do everything I can to make it hook, if I have to down the road I will step up to aluminum but only after I exhaust all other reaonable posibilities, then it will probably be in the form of a new style hemi and selling my current 392 stroker. I have 10.2 compression, tight quench, magnum heads and a small cam (stock 5.9) and no detonation.


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Re: 318-390 stroker which head to use [Re: HotRodDave] #1745432
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Its interesting you say that HRD - in our climate we'd go with the alloy head every time....less risk of detonation at 10:1 static with a mild cam....and less cooling issues - but our gas is also pretty cr@p so the heat dissipation of alloy helps there as well.

My point is only this - we should never underplay the effects of thermal dynamics when choosing performance parts....

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