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Race Headers Who's Best? #1741163
01/28/15 04:37 PM
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hooker makes 2" super comp #5215 for my 440 68 dart. is there a better header?


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Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1741164
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Sometimes you are stuck with what you can get. I'm 90% sure those are fenderwell headers. It is what it is.

I would spend some serious time researching headers. There is a TON of crap out there (step headers being one of them) that is being foisted on the public. If you google headers by ed you can go to his site and read and learn. There are other sites as well.


Just because you think it won't make it true. Horsepower is KING. To dispute this is stupid. C. Alston
Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1741165
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Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1741166
01/29/15 11:52 AM
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hooker makes 2" super comp #5215 for my 440 68 dart. is there a better header?




Probably the best header but a lot different price level:

http://www.perfweldheaders.com/abody_mopar.html

Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1741167
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hooker makes 2" super comp #5215 for my 440 68 dart. is there a better header?




The main issue on headers is if you are buying a shelf
header it isnt for your engine in most cases... every
header that I tested that was a shelf header, the
primaries are the wrong length.. they arent equal length
and the collector is too small in diameter and length...
if you want more power you would be better off getting
the headers made for your engine

Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1741168
01/29/15 12:32 PM
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hooker makes 2" super comp #5215 for my 440 68 dart. is there a better header?





IMO this Hedman is the best off the shelf header for the B/RB A Body's. I've had the Hookers. They are known for cracking at the flange as mine did.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hed-75161/overview/year/1968/make/dodge/model/dart

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Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: roadhazard] #1741169
01/29/15 10:25 PM
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mike, how would one know what header is made for there engine?


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Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1741170
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mike, how would one know what header is made for there engine?




If I were at home I could run your engine through
my header program to tell you what you need... but
I wont be home for a while... I think a few of the
other guys have the same program

Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1741171
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Proparts are awesome and very easy to install! Two pipes exit drivers side and one pipe passenger side

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Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: R/T1968R/T] #1741172
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I ran Stahl headers when I have a 67-69 A body.

Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: roadhazard] #1741173
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hooker makes 2" super comp #5215 for my 440 68 dart. is there a better header?





IMO this Hedman is the best off the shelf header for the B/RB A Body's. I've had the Hookers. They are known for cracking at the flange as mine did.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hed-75161/overview/year/1968/make/dodge/model/dart






Have you ran the 2 inch tube TTI headers? Just wonder how they would compare to the headmans? I am building a big block 73 duster and am wondering if it would be worth the money to switch to the headmans. Also I still have my inner fenders so how is spark plug access on your headers?? Thanks mopar65


3520 pound race ready 1973 Street/Strip Dodge Dart - Stock stroke 440/727 10.49 @ 125.0 on 93 pump gas & ET Street Radials. More to come... ( SGT Miller) Proudly served 12 years in the US ARMY RESERVES support our troops
Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: 340Cuda] #1741174
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hooker makes 2" super comp #5215 for my 440 68 dart. is there a better header?




Probably the best header but a lot different price level:

http://www.perfweldheaders.com/abody_mopar.html




Wow nice header there! They make them for small and big blocks. I would have really cried if those were the headers I crushed in the wheelie.


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Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: 1967dartgt] #1741175
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hooker makes 2" super comp #5215 for my 440 68 dart. is there a better header?




Probably the best header but a lot different price level:

http://www.perfweldheaders.com/abody_mopar.html




Wow nice header there! They make them for small and big blocks. I would have really cried if those were the headers I crushed in the wheelie.




LOL, yes the novelty and coolness of big wheelstands wears off quickly after damaging a few pans and headers! Don't ask me how I know.

Bill

Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: mopar65] #1741176
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hooker makes 2" super comp #5215 for my 440 68 dart. is there a better header?





IMO this Hedman is the best off the shelf header for the B/RB A Body's. I've had the Hookers. They are known for cracking at the flange as mine did.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hed-75161/overview/year/1968/make/dodge/model/dart






Have you ran the 2 inch tube TTI headers? Just wonder how they would compare to the headmans? I am building a big block 73 duster and am wondering if it would be worth the money to switch to the headmans. Also I still have my inner fenders so how is spark plug access on your headers?? Thanks mopar65





I have not run the TTi's and have never seen a listing for the primary tube length's

The Hedman's have IIRC 37"-38" primary length and the Hookers are around 43". For an off the shelf fenderwell exit header the Hedman's are hard to beat. Plug access is decent by reaching from the front of the engine, no access directly from the top.

It's up to you if you want to your fenderwells

Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: roadhazard] #1741177
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tti has lots of options for race headers !!

Been 5.20's @ 138mph with the 2" to 2 1/8" step header !!



tti

Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: Gary Robbins] #1741178
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had the hooker fenderwell's wondering if hedmans or something else is better?


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Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: roadhazard] #1741179
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Thanks for the info.I don't have a problem cutting the inner fenders.just trying to figure out if it would worth it money wise for me to switch. Also how is the tire clearance compared to the hookers?


3520 pound race ready 1973 Street/Strip Dodge Dart - Stock stroke 440/727 10.49 @ 125.0 on 93 pump gas & ET Street Radials. More to come... ( SGT Miller) Proudly served 12 years in the US ARMY RESERVES support our troops
Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: sixpacksteve] #1741180
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I have Mad Dog headers on my Dart and I like them. They are 2"x3.5" under chassis.

Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: 66er] #1741181
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Re: Race Headers Who's Best? [Re: nssracer1] #1741182
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what about fenderwells? is hooker the only ones?


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