Freeze plug problems????????????????
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01/11/15 10:25 PM
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Hey guy's what kind of sealer do you use
on a freeze plug instalation,,,,,,,I have always
used the #1 brown sealer on mine,,,,,, but I have a
'68 hp block and have had issues with the plugs
for the last 3 seasons,,,,,,just had it out to
freshen it up,,,,,,and went back with the brass
again,,,,,,,fired it up yesterday and already
have 2 leaking,,,,,,,I have ran it since I put
it in the car with the rubber expansion plugs
cause I had problems with it from the get go,,,
and was wondering if it is a problem with the block
other than my installation technique,,,guess it's
rubber biscuit time again,,,,,,really po'ed about
this block,,,,,but It's still usable so it will
get used up.........
Thanks
Dave
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Re: Freeze plug problems????????????????
[Re: 65racer]
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01/11/15 10:38 PM
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Get it real hot and use a sealer in the cooling system, it'll seal it up. There's several, I have used Barrs leak quite a few times with success every time.
For a crack or a bad leak, K & R Block seal will work...forever. I have used both and K & R is forever and the best there is.
So will Barrs leak, last forever, on like your new freeze plugs.
I have always used reg clear silicone II right of the caulking gun tube that I got at the hardware store on core plugs on cast iron blocks and have never had a leak. It has never failed me, better than say blue silicone, imo.
several times I have installed fresh rebuilt motors for friends/customers that I didn't build or work on to find a core plug leaking on fire up. I used Barrs leak and it stops it easy.
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Re: Freeze plug problems????????????????
[Re: 65racer]
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01/11/15 11:49 PM
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Hey guy's what kind of sealer do you use
on a freeze plug instalation,,,,,,,I have always
used the #1 brown sealer on mine,,,,,, but I have a
'68 hp block and have had issues with the plugs
for the last 3 seasons,,,,,,just had it out to
freshen it up,,,,,,and went back with the brass
again,,,,,,,fired it up yesterday and already
have 2 leaking,,,,,,,I have ran it since I put
it in the car with the rubber expansion plugs
cause I had problems with it from the get go,,,
and was wondering if it is a problem with the block
other than my installation technique,,,guess it's
rubber biscuit time again,,,,,,really po'ed about
this block,,,,,but It's still usable so it will
get used up.........
Thanks
Dave
This is what I use... put some Permetex around it
and put it in and tighten it up
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Re: Freeze plug problems????????????????
[Re: dakotawilly]
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01/12/15 12:57 AM
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i have seen those before,where do you get those and who makes them?
I get them from my local parts store..
its a common brand name but I forget.. but the parts
store should know... its a very common company in
the freeze plug business
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Re: Freeze plug problems????????????????
[Re: 65racer]
#1727448
01/12/15 01:05 AM
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I would go the sealer route first, you have new plugs in there.
Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads
STR Chassis fabraction
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Re: Freeze plug problems????????????????
[Re: dakotawilly]
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01/12/15 01:09 AM
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mccord?
I dont think it was that... I have a box of them either
in the shop or the trailer... I'll check tomorrow
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Re: Freeze plug problems????????????????
[Re: dakotawilly]
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01/12/15 01:19 AM
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or prob dorman,i like the looks of those over std freeze plugs.let me know what you find out,thx.....
Thats it... dorman... they can look up the sizes
in their book
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Re: Freeze plug problems????????????????
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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01/12/15 11:30 PM
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
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Mr P that was the ones I was going to recommend.I did have rubbers in my 440 and they lasted years.Now all brass.But the solid screw type you posted we used at work a lot.Never had one leak or come out and they saw tens on thousands of miles.Rocky
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Re: Freeze plug problems????????????????
[Re: therocks]
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01/13/15 12:13 AM
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I always use the deep steel plugs and JB weld never had an issue ever--I feel like the steel fits tighter for sure--it is also very important to check each hole and smooth out those digs and gouges made when removing old ones--I use the tootsie roll and then even JB the streak or gouge--then plenty of JB weld---I also have a driver made from diesel wrist pin that fits the 1 5/8ths units perfect so not to distort--I ALWAYS use the deeper ones figuring they have more sealing surface and will not distort--brass is a fad from the past--They are too soft these days cheaper alloy I bet. And..I agree that a dose of stopleak is smart no matter what you are working on-- 
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Re: Freeze plug problems????????????????
[Re: Cudajon]
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01/13/15 12:47 AM
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You know those are not really freeze plugs but are there to clean the sand out after the block is cast. I use brass plugs and JB Weld. Never had one leak or blow out. Brass does not corrode/rust like steel plugs do. Re placing them could be a job but I ain't never replaced one so I don't know.
Same here, after almost wrecking my 69 Dart when a freeze plug flew out on the track I started using JB-Weld on all my freeze plugs.
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Re: Freeze plug problems????????????????
[Re: ProSport]
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01/13/15 12:58 AM
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You know those are not really freeze plugs but are there to clean the sand out after the block is cast. I use brass plugs and JB Weld. Never had one leak or blow out. Brass does not corrode/rust like steel plugs do. Re placing them could be a job but I ain't never replaced one so I don't know.
Same here, after almost wrecking my 69 Dart when a freeze plug flew out on the track I started using JB-Weld on all my freeze plugs.
I had a freeze plug blow out on me twice in 2 weeks..
same hole..on the track... I thought I was flexing
the block..then I changed over to the ones I showed
and never had another issue and those plugs are still
in that engine.. but now that engine is in the land
down under.. sold it to a guy in Australia
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