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1970 Challenger valence bracket #172305 12/21/08 01:15 PM 12/21/08 01:15 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 698 Hilliard, Ohio GKMOPAR OP mopar
GKMOPAR OP mopar Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 698 Hilliard, Ohio	I understand that 1970 Challengers use an extra support bracket to support the rear valence in addition to the two inner large brackets. They are L shaped and connect the valence to the rear crossmember. The only year used was 1970. Does anyone have a picture or reference of what they look like and where they attach? I am putting my car back together (purchased disassembled and many parts in boxes). Thanks, Gerry.

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: GKMOPAR] #172306 12/21/08 01:59 PM 12/21/08 01:59 PM
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Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket #172307 12/21/08 06:12 PM 12/21/08 06:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 698 Hilliard, Ohio GKMOPAR OP mopar
GKMOPAR OP mopar Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 698 Hilliard, Ohio	Those pictured are the inner brackets that mount on the top and bottom of the valence. The ones that I am talking about mount outside of these and only mount on top of the valence in a hole just inside of the bumper guard.

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: GKMOPAR] #172308 12/21/08 06:21 PM 12/21/08 06:21 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	I've owned Challengers since 74 & the ones Tom posted are the only ones I'm aware of for a 70...

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #172309 12/21/08 07:04 PM 12/21/08 07:04 PM
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70challrtse super gas Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,852 Dallas, TX	I have a 70 LA built Challenger and it has 4 brackets the two pictured and two small L shaped brackets that attach to the valance braces.

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: 70challrtse] #172310 12/21/08 07:19 PM 12/21/08 07:19 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Got a picture?

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: 70challrtse] #172311 12/21/08 07:20 PM 12/21/08 07:20 PM
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gygeneral super stock Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 1,059 Ont, Canada	there are two L shaped brackets but they actually attach to the bumper quards and rear frame rails. Are those the ones you are talking about

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: gygeneral] #172312 12/21/08 07:33 PM 12/21/08 07:33 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: there are two L shaped brackets but they actually attach to the bumper quards and rear frame rails. Are those the ones you are talking about Those I'm very familar with but not what is being described...

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: gygeneral] #172313 12/21/08 07:37 PM 12/21/08 07:37 PM
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ebodyseast mopar E Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 500 NoVa	'70-1 Illustrated parts catalog; 23-95; underbody belvedere & coronet (typical of e body)- maybe is listed here... 4893721-70moparunderbody001.jpg (223 downloads)

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: gygeneral] #172314 12/21/08 07:38 PM 12/21/08 07:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,852 Dallas, TX 70challrtse super gas
70challrtse super gas Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,852 Dallas, TX	Quote: there are two L shaped brackets but they actually attach to the bumper quards and rear frame rails. Are those the ones you are talking about No, the ones I'm referring to are just inside the bumper guards. So, mine actually has 6 brackets; the two in Tom's post above, the 2 frame rail brackets and the two that attach to the braces inside the valance. Last edited by 70challrtse; 12/21/08 07:40 PM.

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: ebodyseast] #172315 12/21/08 07:49 PM 12/21/08 07:49 PM
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ebodyseast mopar E Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 500 NoVa	or maybe here... 4893754-challengerrearbumper.JPG (354 downloads)

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: 1_WILD_RT] #172316 12/21/08 08:58 PM 12/21/08 08:58 PM
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Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Got a picture?

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: Challenger 1] #172317 12/21/08 09:14 PM 12/21/08 09:14 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 698 Hilliard, Ohio GKMOPAR OP mopar
GKMOPAR OP mopar Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 698 Hilliard, Ohio	I believe these are the ones! I think they attach to a hole on the top lip of the valence just inside the bumper guard. Does the top attach to the lower edge of the crossmember?

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: Challenger 1] #172318 12/21/08 09:33 PM 12/21/08 09:33 PM
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1_WILD_RT Management Trainee Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 27,347 Today? Who Knows?	Quote: Quote: Got a picture? I've never seen those on any Challengers in over thirty years, they must be only on a small percentage of cars..Cars I worked on in the eighties I could see them being gone but I was playing with these cars in the mid seventies, hard to believe they all got misplaced....

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: Challenger 1] #172319 12/22/08 06:25 AM 12/22/08 06:25 AM
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70challrtse super gas Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,852 Dallas, TX	Quote: Quote: Got a picture? Yep, those are the ones my car has. Here is a pic where they attach to the valance. Sorry the camera was running out of charge so it's not very clear. 4894475-017.JPG (149 downloads)

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: 70challrtse] #172320 12/22/08 08:24 PM 12/22/08 08:24 PM
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Steve340 pro stock S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,547 Puyallup, Wa.	I used to have a 70 Challenger T/A that had those. The threaded bolt hole has a nut insert mounted in the frame rail or rear crossmember. That is how you can tell if your car came with them. My buddy, who also has a 70 Challenger T/A, did not have them, so I don't know if this was only a very early 70 Challenger thing. My friends T/A never had the threaded nut inserts in the car frame either like mine did.

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: Steve340] #172321 12/22/08 09:18 PM 12/22/08 09:18 PM
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hemi_rtdave super stock H Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 992 Oakville.ON,Canada	My understanding after speaking with Steve Been a couple of years ago at Carlisle is that they were found on Very early produced Challenegrs only.

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: hemi_rtdave] #172322 12/22/08 11:32 PM 12/22/08 11:32 PM
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GKMOPAR OP mopar Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 698 Hilliard, Ohio	The build date on my car is 12/19/69 so I guess this is an early car. The valence has a hole like the ones in Ron's picture. I can't see from the picture but I assume they bolt to the rear cross member. Ron, what was the build date of your car? Thanks, Gerry.

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: GKMOPAR] #172323 12/22/08 11:41 PM 12/22/08 11:41 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,650 So Cal	Quote: The build date on my car is 12/19/69 so I guess this is an early car. The valence has a hole like the ones in Ron's picture. I can't see from the picture but I assume they bolt to the rear cross member. Ron, what was the build date of your car? Thanks, Gerry. That's not very early. Almost halfway through the production year.

Re: 1970 Challenger valence bracket [Re: autoxcuda] #172324 12/22/08 11:44 PM 12/22/08 11:44 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	so then where is the dividing line date of early vs late

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