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Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem #1672494 09/17/14 01:20 AM 09/17/14 01:20 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 643 Toronto, Ontario, Canada plazomat OP mopar
plazomat OP mopar Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 643 Toronto, Ontario, Canada	OK so I have a Cardone select 13-1822 master cylinder (85 Diplomat) I wanted to use in my 69 Belvedere disc o tech conversion.. Problem is it doesn't have a machined area to lock in the push rod..power brake only master. There are exactly zero masters available locally - and if I can't see it I won't know if the detail is there. I am thinking I need to order another from the US but which brand? Is this luck of the draw or are some more likely to have the manual or power piston in the MC? Any way to secure the manual push rod in the power Master ? Plazomat

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: plazomat] #1672495 09/17/14 01:33 AM 09/17/14 01:33 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas 70AARcuda master
70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	put the pushrod in...fill recessed area with rtv... Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: plazomat] #1672496 09/17/14 01:57 AM 09/17/14 01:57 AM
Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA Kern Dog Striving for excellence
Kern Dog Striving for excellence Joined: Feb 2010 Posts: 18,493 Granite Bay CA	What about using a 73-76 Dart/Duster/Valiant 4 bolt manual MC? They do fit.

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: 70AARcuda] #1672497 09/17/14 10:05 AM 09/17/14 10:05 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 643 Toronto, Ontario, Canada plazomat OP mopar
plazomat OP mopar Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 643 Toronto, Ontario, Canada	I have heard/read about the RTV method - anyone know anyone who has done this and lived to tell about it? It is a manual pushrod if that makes a diff? Will look into the a-body MC availability - over the last 10 years or so the old stuff has become impossible to find here in Toronto - dam ricers.. Plaz

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: plazomat] #1672498 09/17/14 11:12 AM 09/17/14 11:12 AM
Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,274 Ontario.Canada C can.al pro stock
can.al pro stock C Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 1,274 Ontario.Canada	Rock Auto will have what you need

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: can.al] #1672499 09/17/14 11:36 AM 09/17/14 11:36 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,881 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,881 Ontario, Canada	Does your m/c have the dimple for the pushrod ?? If so, a small piece of rubber tubing on the pushrod usually works. 8272811-mc.jpg (88 downloads)

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: plazomat] #1672500 09/17/14 11:40 AM 09/17/14 11:40 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,041 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: I have heard/read about the RTV method - anyone know anyone who has done this and lived to tell about it? At first blush I'd be leery of it but way back Eberg recommended it as a safe fix & if he's OK with it then I'm OK with it live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: plazomat] #1672501 09/17/14 12:21 PM 09/17/14 12:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,076 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,076 Niles , Ohio	We run 70 C body masters on conversions.Even with all drums thats what I use.Never a problem.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: therocks] #1672502 09/17/14 09:20 PM 09/17/14 09:20 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 643 Toronto, Ontario, Canada plazomat OP mopar
plazomat OP mopar Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 643 Toronto, Ontario, Canada	I don't see a dimple in the bore either. I think the 80 volare might be the answer that I was looking for, I will look around for that one. Thanks Plaz

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: plazomat] #1672503 09/17/14 09:39 PM 09/17/14 09:39 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,150 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,150 Mesa, Arizona	You need the little rubber grommet. I have a package of those if you need one. You can get them through Magnum.

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: dart4forte] #1672504 09/17/14 10:05 PM 09/17/14 10:05 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida BDW master
BDW master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida	Copied this from Dr Diff

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: BDW] #1672505 09/18/14 12:43 AM 09/18/14 12:43 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,881 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,881 Ontario, Canada	For your application the 1-1/32" bore is recommended. The photo I posted is supposedly the m/c you currently have as that's what came up from Cardone when I punched in your p/n. I'd pull the back clip and measure the piston. Could be the wrong part in the box. You could do a search on Autozone or Advanced in the Niagara Falls / Buffalo area and just scoot down and grab one there - at half the cost of the unit up here !!!

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: Stanton] #1672506 09/18/14 12:53 AM 09/18/14 12:53 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama Mopar-Al master
Mopar-Al master Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 6,780 Alabama	My 70 e body had manual disc brakes and it was a 4 bolt. They are a common mc. Not sure if this info helped or not

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: plazomat] #1672507 09/18/14 12:56 AM 09/18/14 12:56 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,881 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,881 Ontario, Canada	'80 Volare shows the same part number you currently have.

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: Stanton] #1672508 09/18/14 01:35 AM 09/18/14 01:35 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 643 Toronto, Ontario, Canada plazomat OP mopar
plazomat OP mopar Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 643 Toronto, Ontario, Canada	Quote: For your application the 1-1/32" bore is recommended. The photo I posted is supposedly the m/c you currently have as that's what came up from Cardone when I punched in your p/n. I'd pull the back clip and measure the piston. Could be the wrong part in the box. I did pull the clip and the piston measures less than 1 inch in diameter - I guess that means its a 15/16 unit..I thought it was supposed to be a 1-1/32 - uh oh.... Thanks gents - at least I know what likely went wrong and I have some more shelf weight.. Plaz

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: plazomat] #1672509 09/18/14 01:54 AM 09/18/14 01:54 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 643 Toronto, Ontario, Canada plazomat OP mopar
plazomat OP mopar Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 643 Toronto, Ontario, Canada	Looks like the port sizes are wrong too-both at 3/8-24 - wrong part in box for sure....damm cardone. Thanks Plaz

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: plazomat] #1672510 09/18/14 11:29 AM 09/18/14 11:29 AM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,881 Ontario, Canada S Stanton Don't question me!
Stanton Don't question me! S Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 8,881 Ontario, Canada	The ports won't match originals on any of the m/c's.

Re: Manual Disc Master Cylinder Questions/Problem [Re: Stanton] #1672511 09/18/14 11:34 AM 09/18/14 11:34 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida BDW master
BDW master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,740 Florida	Quote: The ports won't match originals on any of the m/c's. What? Thought it was a direct bolt in for the lines?

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