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Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
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06/11/14 11:11 PM
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Have an 06 Dodge 3500 4wd dually w/272000 mille on it and am thinking it may be time to replace. The things I don't like about the dually is replacing 6 tires, crappy in the snow, and real limited in the number of places I can park (airports & such). I load the truck with a camper (3800 lbs) and tow a trailer (about 7500 lbs). I was looking at 2014 ram 3500 w/single rear wheels. Going by the specs, it can handle the payload (limit about 4300 lbs), tow weight no problem.
So the question is, do I give up a lot of stability going with the SRW? (I would plan on adding airbags) but it seems like a lot of load on the tires.
Many thanks
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
[Re: oldiron]
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06/11/14 11:28 PM
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I've had both 3500 single tire rear axle and dual tire rear axle.. I prefer the dual all day long.. as to parking I've never had any problem parking the dually but I MIGHT have to walk a few extra steps.. but if this is your daily driver then the single tire works fine.. specially at that weight... but I sure think the dually looks WAY better... I drove my dually to work for a while and never had any problems parking 
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
[Re: oldiron]
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06/12/14 12:08 AM
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Also I will say that in the snow the dually isnt very good.. BUT I never put snow tires on it... my last 3500 is a diesel dually 2 WD and I love it.. but its used as a hauler only.. once in a while I drive it without the trailer and still love the way the 2 WD rides.. 4 WD is a different world
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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06/12/14 12:10 AM
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Many thanks I do like the look of the dually better. But I was figuring that for as much time as I'm in it, I can't see most of the truck  I will say the 2014 is much nicer inside than the 06. I'm leaning dually for stability and the excess load capacity 
66 Belvedere Vert, 4 Speed/Jerico, slowly, very slowly, getting faster - NA LD Wedge New New Best: 10.56 @129 68 B'cuda 4 gear Jerico - Another New Best of 9.86 & Trying to slow up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4jDLKwd9Gs
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
[Re: oldiron]
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06/12/14 12:12 AM
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Many thanks
I do like the look of the dually better. But I was figuring that for as much time as I'm in it, I can't see most of the truck
I will say the 2014 is much nicer inside than the 06.
I'm leaning dually for stability and the excess load capacity
For the few bucks........ DUALLY ... all the way
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
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06/12/14 03:44 PM
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IMO I would never go back to a single rear wheel truck. I have been driving duallies for years. On occasion parking can be a challenge but even when we lived in NorCal and took it to San Francisco I always managed to find a parking spot.
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
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06/12/14 04:19 PM
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I said I'd never own a Dually but towing a 24 enclosed and hauling a camper I could not live with the sway. I have an 05 Dually now and would never go back to an SRW. The new trucks have better suspension and maybe you could live with the compromise but I think Dually would be the better choice. You get more snow than we do but I've never had a problem with my 4X4 Dually and all season tires.
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
[Re: oldiron]
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06/12/14 11:56 PM
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I have an 04 SRW 3500 4x4 shortbox and tow a 32' LQ trailer which I have weighed with my 69 D200 truck in it at 11,700 lbs!  I have towed it all over the U.S. and Canada with nary an issue. Sure it sometimes sways a bit when it is windy, but you won't have any issues.  But if you need training wheels... 
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
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06/13/14 01:31 AM
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1 more thing to think about when towing a trailer srw and a rear tire failure not so good, with a drw no problem you keep on trucking till you can pull of the interstate.
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
[Re: oldiron]
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06/13/14 11:10 AM
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Wise choice. With no camper I'd personally be okay with the SRW truck. But camper + enclosed car trailer, I'd definitely be buying another dually.
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
[Re: oldiron]
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06/13/14 01:40 PM
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So I wonder what gives duallies the most observed improvement, 4 tire sidewalls of stiffness, stiffer springs, wider stance, and/or almost double the tire weight rating?
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
[Re: jcc]
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06/13/14 02:15 PM
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Quote:
So I wonder what gives duallies the most observed improvement, 4 tire sidewalls of stiffness, stiffer springs, wider stance, and/or almost double the tire weight rating?
Yes 
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Re: Race Car Tow Vehicle Advice
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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06/13/14 02:53 PM
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no doubt they all add (think springs are the same), but I suspect the additional tires are the biggest benefit. Funny but all of those things are the downside to a dually. That's why I was struggling. But in the end, what I might have gotten away with is probably the wrong thing to do. I was hoping everyone would say: I've done that, SWR are great, no problem. Was hoping............. now, manual or auto??? 
66 Belvedere Vert, 4 Speed/Jerico, slowly, very slowly, getting faster - NA LD Wedge New New Best: 10.56 @129 68 B'cuda 4 gear Jerico - Another New Best of 9.86 & Trying to slow up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4jDLKwd9Gs
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and with the camper in the bed and pulling a trailer you will notice a lot more sway with the SRW.
