Re: Disappointment at the dyno
[Re: an8sec70cuda]
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06/05/14 03:53 PM
06/05/14 03:53 PM
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Don't be tempted by the big B1 intake you mentioned in the classifieds...it will KILL your lowend torque.
Besides that it's not going to even bolt to his 906's
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Re: Disappointment at the dyno
[Re: 70Drop]
#1628844
06/05/14 06:56 PM
06/05/14 06:56 PM
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I'm running 4:10 gears and a 30-inch 10.5 wide slick
I have not checked fuel pressure during a full run, just for shorter tests on the street (I do not have a fuel pressure gauge in the cockpit.
After my earlier post, I looked at the B1 and realized it was Max Wedge ports, so I wouldn't use that.
Once I get this combo dialed in and my 60-foot down, I'm thinking maybe a head change would be the next step for the engine. I'd also lose a bunch of weight off the front of the car, which would be nice. Would you agree the heads are the best next step? Since it's a street/strip car, I would prefer not to go crazy-big on the cam.
I have looked into the EZ heads a bit. They seem like a good way to go, although a little pricey. Even more with CNC porting. I guess they flow like 340ish with CNC? That's probably more than I need.
You can always slow it down but it is impossible to speed it up if you don’t have it. I always error on the side of making a little more power, that way you got it if you need to use it.
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Re: Disappointment at the dyno
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06/05/14 07:27 PM
06/05/14 07:27 PM
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Anyone that works with Mopars on the dyno knows that 35 is not enough timing--that is at the point where a few more degrees means big leaps in HP usually--many like around 41 or so in my experience--now I know it all comes down to combustion chamber--piston top etc but 35 will not get it when seeking best power numbers in most cases
Now you did it. Don't you know that 36 to 38° is the only right timing for a BB Mopar. I read it so myself right here on this forum and a magazine.
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Re: Disappointment at the dyno
[Re: 70Drop]
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06/05/14 07:51 PM
06/05/14 07:51 PM
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I'm running 4:10 gears and a 30-inch 10.5 wide slick
I have not checked fuel pressure during a full run, just for shorter tests on the street (I do not have a fuel pressure gauge in the cockpit.
After my earlier post, I looked at the B1 and realized it was Max Wedge ports, so I wouldn't use that.
Once I get this combo dialed in and my 60-foot down, I'm thinking maybe a head change would be the next step for the engine. I'd also lose a bunch of weight off the front of the car, which would be nice. Would you agree the heads are the best next step? Since it's a street/strip car, I would prefer not to go crazy-big on the cam.
I have looked into the EZ heads a bit. They seem like a good way to go, although a little pricey. Even more with CNC porting. I guess they flow like 340ish with CNC? That's probably more than I need.
To be honest I dont think your heads are the choke.. you need a 1050 for the cubes.. but thats for a race car... I dont know if you want to play with the fuel on the street
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Re: Disappointment at the dyno
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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06/05/14 08:00 PM
06/05/14 08:00 PM
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To be honest I dont think your heads are the choke.. you need a 1050 for the cubes.. but thats for a race car... I dont know if you want to play with the fuel on the street
Hmmm. Maybe a six-pack?
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Re: Disappointment at the dyno
[Re: 70Drop]
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06/05/14 10:42 PM
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To be honest I dont think your heads are the choke.. you need a 1050 for the cubes.. but thats for a race car... I dont know if you want to play with the fuel on the street
Hmmm. Maybe a six-pack?
Any engine I have thrown more carb at helped in power but lets look at the math.. what did a stock 440 come with for carb.. 850... then do the percentage of yours.. thats the minimum ... or if you want you can put a vac gauge on the intake and see what you have.. but I have found that the sooner that gauge gets to zero the better.... IF it does... I havent ever run a 6 pac but I have run tunnel rams but I had bad carbs on them... I only run a DP now days
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Re: Disappointment at the dyno
[Re: Thumperdart]
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06/06/14 12:44 AM
06/06/14 12:44 AM
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Better heads and then a bigger cam...
You can hang a bunch of mismatched parts around a good set of heads and most of the time the engine will still run strong.
You can hang a bunch of good parts around a bad set of heads and you will end up with a slug.
A good set of heads that will feed the cid at your RPM range is everything.
67 Barracuda street/bracket car 11.27-119 68 Dart 502 BB 8.70s-152 414 cid SB Dragster 7.65-174
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