Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: John_Kunkel] #1618172
05/12/14 05:45 PM
05/12/14 05:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 168
Loves Park, IL
H
HotRodRailroader Offline
member
HotRodRailroader  Offline
member
H

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 168
Loves Park, IL
lots of fluids can be interchanged. If your purchasing clutch fluid just look at the bottle. It IS brake fluid. Dot 3. So it really is a good question to ask but PS and ATF would not fly in my book. different viscosity and pressure tolerances.

Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: HotRodRailroader] #1618173
05/13/14 02:47 PM
05/13/14 02:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,808
Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel Offline
Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,808
Rio Linda, CA

So, you're saying that the pressures have changed since ATF was the recommended fluid? FSM's say they're the same. Viscosity? Nope.


The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: John_Kunkel] #1618174
05/13/14 02:54 PM
05/13/14 02:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,932
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,932
Grand Prairie,Texas
When did the factory recommend ATF?

Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: stumpy] #1618175
05/13/14 04:23 PM
05/13/14 04:23 PM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,102
Western Md.
skicker Offline
"The Champ"
skicker  Offline
"The Champ"

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,102
Western Md.
Put a manual box on it then these guys can find something else to argue about.


...FAFO...
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: stumpy] #1618176
05/13/14 04:52 PM
05/13/14 04:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,808
Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel Offline
Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,808
Rio Linda, CA
Quote:

When did the factory recommend ATF?




My '57 FSM specifies ATF Type "A" Suffix "A" as do most from the fifties/early sixties.


The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: John_Kunkel] #1618177
05/13/14 05:08 PM
05/13/14 05:08 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 587
AL
J
jglen490 Offline
mopar
jglen490  Offline
mopar
J

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 587
AL
Maybe the FSM requirement has changed sometime in the past 50 years "just" so someone could sell a more expensive PS fluid - but I doubt it.

Just like the change in requirement from the mistake of "use Dexron" in the A604 was corrected to ATF+3 and then ATF+4, experience changes many things; and sometimes without the need to validate that experience in a laboratory setting.

Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: jglen490] #1618178
05/13/14 05:23 PM
05/13/14 05:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,808
Rio Linda, CA
John_Kunkel Offline
Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 25,808
Rio Linda, CA
The early ATF contained sperm oil, the use of which was outlawed in the late sixties; this required the development of costly additives to serve as a substitute for the whale oil.

I suspect that the use of dedicated P/S fluid came about because the exotic additives in ATF simply aren't needed in P/S systems. (that doesn't mean it's detrimental to use it)


The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: John_Kunkel] #1618179
05/14/14 12:20 AM
05/14/14 12:20 AM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,512
God's Country Maryland
GODSCOUNTRY340 Offline
master
GODSCOUNTRY340  Offline
master

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,512
God's Country Maryland
Explain this!

8144017-DSC07805.JPG (117 downloads)

I love the smell of Deer guts in the morning, it smells like... VICTORY!
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #1618180
05/14/14 12:35 AM
05/14/14 12:35 AM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,932
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,932
Grand Prairie,Texas
What's it from?

Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: stumpy] #1618181
05/14/14 09:29 AM
05/14/14 09:29 AM
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,102
Western Md.
skicker Offline
"The Champ"
skicker  Offline
"The Champ"

Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 5,102
Western Md.
Quote:

What's it from?



Looks like a p/s reservoir from a hydroboost set-up for a factory plow truck.


...FAFO...
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #1618182
05/14/14 03:36 PM
05/14/14 03:36 PM
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 587
AL
J
jglen490 Offline
mopar
jglen490  Offline
mopar
J

Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 587
AL
Old cap.

Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: jglen490] #1618183
05/14/14 06:56 PM
05/14/14 06:56 PM
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,890
Oregon
hooziewhatsit Offline
master
hooziewhatsit  Offline
master

Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,890
Oregon
I recently got a rebuilt box for my 72 W200, and asked them about ATF/PS fluid.

"We are good with ATF your system was designed around using ATF for 30 plus years until someone decided they had something better, but any of the p/s fluids are good."

I put in ATF since I had a couple quarts on hand.


If you ever find yourself in a fair fight, your tactics suck.
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: hooziewhatsit] #1618184
05/15/14 12:58 AM
05/15/14 12:58 AM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,512
God's Country Maryland
GODSCOUNTRY340 Offline
master
GODSCOUNTRY340  Offline
master

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,512
God's Country Maryland
Nice try Quint, but it's a power steering pump from a 1968 Chebby truck.


I love the smell of Deer guts in the morning, it smells like... VICTORY!
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #1618185
05/15/14 06:46 PM
05/15/14 06:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,903
Athens, Greece
Pyper70 Offline OP
master
Pyper70  Offline OP
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,903
Athens, Greece
I went to a few places today to ask for Castrol GT PS Fluid...every place I went to...the kid pulled Dexron-Mercon III off the shelf...and I shook my head and educated them...the owners of the shops stood by the employee...Finally I drove 45 miles today to a Canadian guy who brings parts from Montreal here...and bought 6 bottles of this stuff. Its been sitting on the shelf so long, the bottles have yellowed.


Family owned 1969 Charger R/T DualQuad 440/727/GVO/3.55s
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: Pyper70] #1618186
05/15/14 07:32 PM
05/15/14 07:32 PM
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,162
CT
GTX MATT Offline
master
GTX MATT  Offline
master

Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 5,162
CT
There are still some late model cars that call for ATF for the power steering systems, most notably Subaru.


Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat
Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: GTX MATT] #1618187
05/15/14 07:44 PM
05/15/14 07:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,932
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,932
Grand Prairie,Texas
Chevy, Subaru? Did any one notice we are discussing power steering fluid in a Mopar which does not recommend ATF usage. Subaru also had a two stroke motor but I wouldn't recommend using a 50:1 blend of gas and oil in our Mopars.

Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #1618188
05/15/14 08:06 PM
05/15/14 08:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,591
Canton, Ohio
S
Sport440 Offline
master
Sport440  Offline
master
S

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 6,591
Canton, Ohio
Quote:

Nice try Quint, but it's a power steering pump from a 1968 Chebby truck.




Yep, Lots of Chevy trucks of that era and Later, had the ATF stamped PS cap. Even saw a similer cap on a Chevy 10 ton Dump truck. Similer pumps but power steering box was huge and expensive.

GM had No worries using Tranny fluid in the PS units. Heck They Even Stamped the Caps.

Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: stumpy] #1618189
05/15/14 08:11 PM
05/15/14 08:11 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,512
God's Country Maryland
GODSCOUNTRY340 Offline
master
GODSCOUNTRY340  Offline
master

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,512
God's Country Maryland
Quote:

Any power steering fluid will work. Be warned that power steering fluid is a much different fluid than ATF. You don't need any high dollar brand. Don't use ATF it wasn't made to be used for steering fluid.


Just reacting to your post stating ATF wasn't made to be used for power steering fluid.


I love the smell of Deer guts in the morning, it smells like... VICTORY!
Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: GODSCOUNTRY340] #1618190
05/15/14 08:14 PM
05/15/14 08:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,932
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,932
Grand Prairie,Texas
We are discussing MOPARs not GM or any other off brand.

Re: Power Steering Fluid [Re: stumpy] #1618191
05/15/14 08:23 PM
05/15/14 08:23 PM
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,512
God's Country Maryland
GODSCOUNTRY340 Offline
master
GODSCOUNTRY340  Offline
master

Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 2,512
God's Country Maryland
Quote:

It could be used for power steering but not what is recommended by Mopar or anyone else. I also bet firm feel would not warranty any part failures if you told them that is what you used in the system.


Here you state it's not recommended by Mopar or anyone else. I'd like to agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.


I love the smell of Deer guts in the morning, it smells like... VICTORY!
Page 2 of 3 1 2 3






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1