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Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve #1607067
04/13/14 10:54 PM
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There are plenty of accounts online of the repop metering valves leaking. My first one from Inline Tubes leaked so they sent me another one. The second leaked ever so slightly so I stuck with it. Now as I actually drive and brake, the thing leaks REAL bad under pressure from the pedal. I removed it and took it apart to find a very poorly made seal. From my readings online this seal cannot be bought separately.

Am I faced with continuing to get replacements until I receive one that doesn't leak? Has this bad part/leaking been resolved in the last couple of years and I missed it?

I understand that this valve delays the front discs for a split second when the pedal is applied. Can this thing be "gutted" and plugged, removing the "delay" and not adversely affect the braking?


Later, Sandy '70 HEMI Road Runner B5/B5, 4 spd "Sandy's Garage" on Facebook
Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: 426runner] #1607068
04/14/14 12:47 AM
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Ditch the Inline unit, and purchase a FINELINES mfg unit

Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: 426runner] #1607069
04/14/14 03:30 AM
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My repop unit leaked too. Bought a used factory unit, no leaks anymore.

Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: DAYCLONA] #1607070
04/14/14 09:35 AM
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Jacksonville, Fl
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Finelines website show them sold out. I will call to make sure. What'll-ya-know... Inline has tons of 'em.


Later, Sandy '70 HEMI Road Runner B5/B5, 4 spd "Sandy's Garage" on Facebook
Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: 426runner] #1607071
04/14/14 12:24 PM
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Don't use parts from the right stuff, I call it the wrong stuff. Sad to, cause their customer service is about the best I have encountered, just junk parts.

Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: 426runner] #1607072
04/14/14 02:03 PM
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Jacksonville, Fl
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I called Fine Lines. They had them in stock. They tell me that the internal parts are from china HOWEVER, most sellers have the units assembled in China. That's where the issues are. Fine Lines receives the parts and assembles the units themselves, weeding out bad seals and assuring that the valves are assembled correctly. I took his word for it and ordered one. I'll let you know.


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Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: 426runner] #1607073
04/14/14 08:07 PM
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I got mine from Jamie at Mega Parts,No problems.Not sure who they buy from though. John.


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Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: 426runner] #1607074
04/14/14 11:40 PM
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That seal has been an ongoing problem with I.T. for several years. I can't believe they are still selling it.

Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: BarrsRestoration] #1607075
04/14/14 11:59 PM
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Problem 1 : Made and assembled overseas...

Problem 2 : The vendor did'nt send them back and have them done correctly...

Guess that tells you what they think of their customers...

Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: 426runner] #1607076
04/15/14 12:14 PM
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I thought that I was the only one. My new valve leaks from the hex head plug at the end. I can't tighten it any tighter and I was going to pull it this week to see if I can add a seal. I don't recall which company supplied it though.


1970 YO7 A66 [Canadian Export] F8 Challenger
340 (Currently in shop for stroker assy.) Solid FT, Yella Terra 1.65 rockers, 9.7:1, 63cc Sidewinders (Bowl Ported),RPM intake, QF SS-750 Annular DP, MSD Street Fire Ign., & TTI's. 727/Dynamic 9.5" 3800, TF-2, & 3:91's
Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: YO7_A66] #1607077
04/15/14 01:20 PM
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Yep, my re-pop leaked also. Sent it back. Received the second one. It leaked also. Tigtened the crap out of it & put teflon tape on the threads & has been trouble free for 3 years or so now.


1963 Belvedere 440 Max Wedge Tribute
1970 Charger R/T S.E. 440 Six Pack
1970 Challenger R/T, 528 Hemi
1970 Charger 500 S.E. 440 4 BBL
1970 Plymouth Road Runner 383
1974 Chrysler New Yorker 440
1996 2500 RAM 488 V-10 4X4
2004 3500 Dually Cummins 4x4
2012 Challenger R/T Classic.
Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: 6PKRTSE] #1607078
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If the valve is on the car, how much fluid will leak out when I remove the hex head plug (facing towards the ground on the car)?

Will I need to re-bleed the brakes?

I want to try the teflon tape idea.

Thanks


1970 YO7 A66 [Canadian Export] F8 Challenger
340 (Currently in shop for stroker assy.) Solid FT, Yella Terra 1.65 rockers, 9.7:1, 63cc Sidewinders (Bowl Ported),RPM intake, QF SS-750 Annular DP, MSD Street Fire Ign., & TTI's. 727/Dynamic 9.5" 3800, TF-2, & 3:91's
Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: YO7_A66] #1607079
04/15/14 06:19 PM
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Yes you will have to bleed the brakes... I have used teflon tape on them in the past and worked great for me


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66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram
Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: Silver70] #1607080
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I pulled the valve block out of the car and that plug was very tight. So I pulled both the bottomplug and the top fitting and added teflon tape to both male fittings. I will have it back on and will be driving the car this weekend to test it again.
Thanks


1970 YO7 A66 [Canadian Export] F8 Challenger
340 (Currently in shop for stroker assy.) Solid FT, Yella Terra 1.65 rockers, 9.7:1, 63cc Sidewinders (Bowl Ported),RPM intake, QF SS-750 Annular DP, MSD Street Fire Ign., & TTI's. 727/Dynamic 9.5" 3800, TF-2, & 3:91's
Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: YO7_A66] #1607081
04/16/14 07:05 AM
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I have had at least 3 that have leaked so far. Everyone I have bought so far has been assembled and never tightened up.You would think they would be a little more critical with brake parts but what do they know about making brake parts where they are made. They ride bicycles.This has been a ongoing problem for at least 3 years. I would keep sending them back until you get one that does not leak. If they are going to sell you junk parts that they know have a problem. I would make there job difficult and make sure they loose there profit in shipping cost. They don't care about your labor.

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Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: sunroof446] #1607082
04/17/14 10:01 PM
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how good is the one right stuff sells I have one that leaks to thanks

Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: GardnersGotCudas] #1607083
04/17/14 10:18 PM
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Sandy,
For my 70RR resto, I ended up rebuilding all three valves. There's a good thread on this, but it's older than the new 2yr limit on searches (IIRC 2011).

Basically gutted all 3 valves and used repro kits/valve parts to rebuild. There's a guy in that thread that was selling kits. I was transitioning from DOT3 to DOT5 so had to clean them out anyway. For the metering valve, I used my date coded shell and rebuilt with the insides from a Fine Lines repro. Worked out well and kept my OE look. No leaks.

Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: 70runner] #1607084
04/18/14 07:27 AM
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Here's an old link I had from the place that sells rebuild kits https://www.musclecarresearch.com/1970-76-mopar-combo-valve-autopsy


1970 Challenger T/A 4 speed
1971 Duster 340 4 speed-2017 MCACN Gold Winner
Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: steve70] #1607085
04/19/14 09:38 PM
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Quote:

Here's an old link I had from the place that sells rebuild kits https://www.musclecarresearch.com/1970-76-mopar-combo-valve-autopsy




The web site mentioned above is mine. Here's a direct link to the kit I have to re-seal that valve:

https://www.musclecarresearch.com/mopar-seal-kit-2


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Re: Leaking '70 repop disc brake metering valve [Re: sah62] #1607086
04/20/14 11:44 AM
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Scott..I can't open either of the links...Something about the websites security certificate being under another site's address ???? I'm sure this is diverting alot of potential customers..

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