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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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02/15/14 08:20 PM
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The problem down here is if they start making all the cars be legal at these tracks they would not have 5 or 10 cars be able to race. Then they would have to close down anyway. I do not know any car that would be NHRA or IHRA legal.
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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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02/15/14 09:32 PM
02/15/14 09:32 PM
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I have been racing for over 25 years and have seen plenty of crashes in cars that were legal. My NHRA home track is pretty tough when it comes to tech and cars are watched if the car goes quicker than its legal for they are spoken to and are banned from racing that day if they don`t comply/ slow the car down. It becomes a whole legal thing for the track, here in N.J. tracks are regulated by the State Police and they cruise thru the pits on occasion and are called if there is a serious crash , if there is a crash the car is impounded for inspection. Tracks are having a tough enough time surviving they have to protect themselves from liability as their insurance costs are astronomical. I`ll admit that some of the NHRAs rules are nuts and geared toward business for its sponsors but for the most part are for the drivers protection. One time I was at Pittsburgh ( an IHRA track) for a Mopar race and once the inspector saw my NHRA extended tech sticker he said " I know you`re good to go"
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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: D-50]
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02/15/14 09:46 PM
02/15/14 09:46 PM
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The problem down here is if they start making all the cars be legal at these tracks they would not have 5 or 10 cars be able to race. Then they would have to close down anyway. I do not know any car that would be NHRA or IHRA legal.
My car is NHRA legal I do need to get it certified. It will tech
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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: Mopar-Al]
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02/15/14 10:11 PM
02/15/14 10:11 PM
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I think some of us have slow cars, mostly street cars, that we keep tinkering and upgrading. I don't want to cut up my cuda if I don't have too if I'm only running mid 12's. I don't want to spend the cash either. Now I've upgraded the engine a bit and wonder how fast it is. If I have to put a bar in it, I will. But I won't know until I make a few passes. I'll be happy if it requires one, but disappointed if I have to cage it because it is a play toy for me until I give it to my daughter with a different engine in it.
67 Dart GT Convertible 273 68 Barracuda 383 68 Roadrunner 383 4spd 1 '01 Ram 2500 4x4 diesel 2 '02 Rams 1500 4x4's 4.7s 3 '03 Rams 2 1500's 4x4 and 1 2500 hemi 4x4 Oh, and a 03 Grand Cherokee and an '00 durango 
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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: ta3834bbl]
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02/15/14 11:57 PM
02/15/14 11:57 PM
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I think some of us have slow cars, mostly street cars, that we keep tinkering and upgrading. I don't want to cut up my cuda if I don't have too if I'm only running mid 12's. I don't want to spend the cash either. Now I've upgraded the engine a bit and wonder how fast it is. If I have to put a bar in it, I will. But I won't know until I make a few passes. I'll be happy if it requires one, but disappointed if I have to cage it because it is a play toy for me until I give it to my daughter with a different engine in it.
Don't cage it unless they absolutely stop you from running it. If you plan on giving it to your daughter with a less potent combo and she's driving around in a caged car it can be ugly if she was in a traffic accident.
I kind of feel bars are scary in street cars, what if you are T boned and get a broken door bar jammed through your gut? Or bounce your bare melon off the main hoop? Not good
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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: SpareParts]
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02/16/14 12:06 AM
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I think some of us have slow cars, mostly street cars, that we keep tinkering and upgrading. I don't want to cut up my cuda if I don't have too if I'm only running mid 12's. I don't want to spend the cash either. Now I've upgraded the engine a bit and wonder how fast it is. If I have to put a bar in it, I will. But I won't know until I make a few passes. I'll be happy if it requires one, but disappointed if I have to cage it because it is a play toy for me until I give it to my daughter with a different engine in it.
Don't cage it unless they absolutely stop you from running it. If you plan on giving it to your daughter with a less potent combo and she's driving around in a caged car it can be ugly if she was in a traffic accident.
I kind of feel bars are scary in street cars, what if you are T boned and get a broken door bar jammed through your gut? Or bounce your bare melon off the main hoop? Not good
I'll take a T-bone in my Rampage... if your bar breaks
off it was JUNK... all the bars are padded any place
that myself or the passenger could even think of hitting
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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: SpareParts]
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02/16/14 01:50 AM
02/16/14 01:50 AM
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I think some of us have slow cars, mostly street cars, that we keep tinkering and upgrading. I don't want to cut up my cuda if I don't have too if I'm only running mid 12's. I don't want to spend the cash either. Now I've upgraded the engine a bit and wonder how fast it is. If I have to put a bar in it, I will. But I won't know until I make a few passes. I'll be happy if it requires one, but disappointed if I have to cage it because it is a play toy for me until I give it to my daughter with a different engine in it.
Don't cage it unless they absolutely stop you from running it. If you plan on giving it to your daughter with a less potent combo and she's driving around in a caged car it can be ugly if she was in a traffic accident.
I kind of feel bars are scary in street cars, what if you are T boned and get a broken door bar jammed through your gut? Or bounce your bare melon off the main hoop? Not good
A car is much safer on the street with a cage or a bar. I don't know where this wives tale came from. Put padding on the bars.
Door bars don't break. If it did the other driver would have drove completely through your car without it.
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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: 67Satty]
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02/16/14 02:00 AM
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But the question is, is the padding sufficient to take a hit from a head not wearing a helmet? I could be wrong but my guess is the answer is no. I would think just about anything else your bare head could hit in a car would have more give than a welded in roll bar/cage.
Believe me...if you hit that padding hard enough to
really hurt yourself you would do the same thing in
a regular car... I did TONS of impact studies at Chrysler
to get a GOOD idea what it takes to be hurt.... I'll
take my chances with the padding and no helmet...
I'd rather have the bars to protect me
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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: BradH]
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02/16/14 03:51 AM
02/16/14 03:51 AM
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Street tires and weight (and altitude) are keeping my cars right at the limit. The 71 Charger is running mid 11's @ 120 MPH, but it weights 4150 pounds, and has poor 60' times. The '69 Coronet Convertible (not sure what it weighs), but is running BFG Radial T/As 255x60x15, and they spin through first and second gear, so I just above 14's @ 105 MPH. This is at Bandimere, so at lower altitude I would see how bad the tire spin is?
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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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02/16/14 04:58 AM
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I think some of us have slow cars, mostly street cars, that we keep tinkering and upgrading. I don't want to cut up my cuda if I don't have too if I'm only running mid 12's. I don't want to spend the cash either. Now I've upgraded the engine a bit and wonder how fast it is. If I have to put a bar in it, I will. But I won't know until I make a few passes. I'll be happy if it requires one, but disappointed if I have to cage it because it is a play toy for me until I give it to my daughter with a different engine in it.
Don't cage it unless they absolutely stop you from running it. If you plan on giving it to your daughter with a less potent combo and she's driving around in a caged car it can be ugly if she was in a traffic accident.
I kind of feel bars are scary in street cars, what if you are T boned and get a broken door bar jammed through your gut? Or bounce your bare melon off the main hoop? Not good
I'll take a T-bone in my Rampage... if your bar breaks
off it was JUNK... all the bars are padded any place
that myself or the passenger could even think of hitting
I was kinda thinking out loud. What kind of force do you think it would require to turn a door bar into a spear? I thought I remember a fatal accident with a caged dart and the driver was skewered
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Re: Who has a car that's faster than it's track-legal for?
[Re: DodgeCharger]
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02/16/14 12:18 PM
02/16/14 12:18 PM
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"A car is much safer on the street with a cage or a bar. I don't know where this wives tale came from. Put padding on the bars." 1. car is safer, but are the occupants? 2. Calling it a "wife's tale", doesn't make it one 3. Next time some one hits you on the head with an alum baseball bat, tell them to pad it first, and you be fine. 4. cages are installed with the understanding the driver will be tightly secured by a 5+ 3"? wide restraint system, AND have on a Snell approved helmet. The reduction in free movement caused by the space intrusion with a cage, and the fact that rollbars have an approx .875" radius, somewhat if not greatly smaller then almost any other interior surface of a non caged car that the driver can normally contact when belted in, is likely the source of this "wife's tale". 5. There are many circumstances having a proper cage adds safety for the driver in an accident, but striking ones unhelmeted head on a cage has huge negative consequences, padded or not. 
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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