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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: 72Swinger] #1577599
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I need that mental refreshment. It's been too long. The last time I had the car down this long, once it was running I burnt myself several times from forgetting that the engine gets hot again.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577600
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So my mainstay plan is to use the Android tablet for start up, but I need a permanent solution. Here are my choices:

-Restore the taxi cab dash ($600 and I only make it pretty and adequate...) I dont gain any gauges aside from turning the amp gauge into a volt gauge.




-Make a plate the same size as the taxi cab dash and try to fit a 3 3/8" Tach and speedo along with 4 2 1/16 gauges. I've seen this done, but it looks cluttered due to the small opening. I've ordered 1100 series aluminum plate in 6x24" to try this.





-Cut the dash for a rallye dash cluster (i've got a junk cluster and bezel) and try to adapt a rallye dash pad to the bottom. The fascia should cover it all. This is the preffered option, but riskiest. If it doesn't work I've got a chopped up dash that needs to be completely swapped out to a rallye style.




Now there are even digital drop in clusters...




-The most expensive option and least inspired option is this one...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-70-B-body-N...=item1c4d0eb36b

Overpriced and doesn't do much aside from fit in the stock place. Id buy it right now for $500 less than it is.

-The simplest and most easily reversible is to get a Racepak Street Dash and bolt it to that .250" aluminum plate with my wideband and go. It can do turn signals, flashers, speedo, tach, water temp, oil pressure, volts and oil temp. That would be simple. I've printed a template of the racepack, if it can fit easily I'll order this.



What do all my mopar friends think?


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577601
02/16/15 03:59 PM
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For track day purposes I don't think a tablet will cut it because anything not tied down in a event of a crash is just another potential missile to the cranium. I have the RacePak IQ3 only because I bought mine new back in 2009 but never used it until only last year. I am pretty sure they have a Vnet interface that will tie in your MS3.

The RacePak stuff is good for street use but I find the datalogging is complicated compared to what you can get for free on your typical smartphone apps. There are display dashes like the AIM MXL2 that have great features that should tie into your MS3 setup also, but are way up in price


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: RylisPro] #1577602
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This will only be used for read out. Data logging will all be handled be the ms3. Even with the racepack unit I may still get a car mount for the tablet.

It can be used to make quick tune changes if I don't have the laptop.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577603
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You could also do 3-3 3/8" gauges, that is how my pile is. I added an oil temp gauge though recently.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577604
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Option to use aftermarket gauges. It'd be the best balance between stockish and getting some better information. I wouldn't care for the taxi dash or the all digital at all. But that's just my opinion.

You can Get a basic .dxf software and draw up a dash. A local shop with any sort of waterjet, CNC plasma, laser cutter, etc can make short work out of it. just get them to do it when they run their next batch of ~1/8" alum, it'd be pretty cheap. .


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: GoodysGotaCuda] #1577605
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So I'm done with a month long insane period at work.

Things left to do:

-Run battery cable to starter
-Mount box and purchase a series 35 battery
-Complete a few misc fuel line connections
-Wire fuel pumps
-Find a high amperage relay for my Thunderbird 4.6 fan.
-Trim the fan shroud back a half inch.
-Find misc hardware for PS pump (worked on this last night, I've got the wrong pump..)
-Connect exhaust to headers
-Find someone to press in my Moog problem solver UCA bushings
-Take the DS for a rebuild/balancing

At that point, it will be ready for its maiden voyage and flogging.

I'm trying to knock one thing off the list a day. So far I'm off to an OK start....


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577606
03/24/15 12:08 PM
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Almost there Alex!


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577607
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http://www.texasindustrialelectric.com/relays_0332002150.asp



Voltage: 12 V
Life Tests Resistive Load - N/O: 75 A - 100,000 cycles


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: feets] #1577608
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Quote:

http://www.texasindustrialelectric.com/relays_0332002150.asp



Voltage: 12 V
Life Tests Resistive Load - N/O: 75 A - 100,000 cycles




Is that the relay for glow plugs? I've been trying to find that for weeks.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577609
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Silly man. You should have asked.



I have a pair of Bosch 80 amp relays like that at home. They're destined for my projects.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: feets] #1577610
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I'm contemplating using one on my dual fuel pumps. Just a tiny Holley Pump and a GSL392.

On a related note, I need some advice on powering my fuel pumps. I'd like to locate my fuel pump relays in the trunk of the car close to the battery. I was imagining a small fuse panel for the pumps and a small lug panel to take the power direct to the relays.

How should I wire this?


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577611
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I can't prove that I worked on it if I didn't take pictures.

Installed my $20 Camaro spoiler:



Installed the Moroso battery box and got an Autozone AGM battery. NHRA legal...yo. Kinda.




I also realized that I'm not as smart as I thought I was. I purchased an LS1 power steering pump to bolt to Emil's bracket, but the clocking is different from the pump he based the kit off of and the reservoir comes out the side instead of the top.



DONT BUY AN LS1 PUMP.

I'll be buying the Speedway pump like he is using and doing AN fittings to the box.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577612
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Quote:

I'm contemplating using one on my dual fuel pumps. Just a tiny Holley Pump and a GSL392.

On a related note, I need some advice on powering my fuel pumps. I'd like to locate my fuel pump relays in the trunk of the car close to the battery. I was imagining a small fuse panel for the pumps and a small lug panel to take the power direct to the relays.

How should I wire this?





What are you doing to fuse/protect your alternator output? I am assuming it is going to end up back there to the battery or to your switch?

I used a Blue Sea systems circuit breaker on mine, they make larger current rating models. If this was somewhere in your trunk, you could use one of the lugs to also feed your little fuse box, then to feed your relay[s].


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577613
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Spoiler looks good on there.

Do you remember which year spoiler that was?
There's two different styles - 67/68 Camaro and 69 Camaro.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: Sneke_Eyez] #1577614
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Spoiler looks good on there.

Do you remember which year spoiler that was?
There's two different styles - 67/68 Camaro and 69 Camaro.




1969 Camaro by Scott Drake

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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577615
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I trimmed 1/2" off of the Thunderbird fan and notched it with a pair of shears and it fits really nicely. A few impromptu brackets and it will be ready to go.

Also after much deliberation and a stressed out thread...I got the shifter in.

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...e=0#Post8470412

Now I just need to connect the linkage rod and I can check actuation of the gears.

Next I need to order 2 HD 70 amp relays, 3 breakers (fan, fuel pumps and alternator output) and all my supplies to wire the important systems of the car.

I've got a GM PS pump on order and the fittings to connect up the PS box from Firm Feel.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577616
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Power steering pump update:

I just purchased this pump..

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Aluminum-Power-Steering-Pumps-w-Reservoir,12707.html

1150 psi, fits the bracket that I've got and is aluminum.

I wanted -6 to begin with, but I'll settle for the m16x1.50 PS fitting and use this adapter...

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Steel-Power-Steering-Box-Adapter-Fitting-16mm-15-IFM-6-AN-80-Up-GM,37128.html

I just need to pick up some of the Aeroquip AQP PS hose and fittings when it comes in. I've already got the Durango pulley that Emil suggested for the .662" shaft.


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Re: Let the Hemi swap begin [Re: AlexP] #1577617
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Quote:

Quote:

http://www.texasindustrialelectric.com/relays_0332002150.asp



Voltage: 12 V
Life Tests Resistive Load - N/O: 75 A - 100,000 cycles




Is that the relay for glow plugs? I've been trying to find that for weeks.




Just picked up two of these. One for my fuel pumps and one for my fan.


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So, after another month of traveling I'm working on the car again this weekend.

I'm hoping to start the car without the exhaust for a short period. Emil made me do it by showing me his car running in a semi assembled state.

I'll bench test the injectors and coils, disconnect it all and turn it over for an oil pressure check. Once it's showing pressure, I'll see if it will high idle for a little while and maybe get some heat into it.

I'm terrified and excited at the same time.


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