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Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip #1572071 02/01/14 01:46 PM 02/01/14 01:46 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 149 N. Of Detroit, Mi 7 733404spdCuda OP member
733404spdCuda OP member 7 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 149 N. Of Detroit, Mi	I�m building a small block 408 and need help picking out a cam that is good for a street / strip Cuda on pump gas or E-85 if required. I�m a little concerned about the compression and know the cam selection is critical. Below are the details of the build: 1974 360 block, .030 over, cylinders race honed with plates, sonic tested, deck trued, line honed. .030 Diamond pistons part #51026. Eagle H-beam rods Eagle Forged 4.00" crankshaft. Edelbrock #60775 63cc aluminum cylinder heads. Compression should be between 10.5 and 11 with the 63cc heads (Could I reduce this with Cometic head gaskets?) Stall is 2600 - 2800 and 3.91 rear Also looking for a good shop to port the heads that can turn them around in a few months. Thanks for the help Jim

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: 733404spdCuda] #1572072 02/01/14 02:06 PM 02/01/14 02:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Porter racing heads / Dwayne- fast68plymouth on the board comp 308R cam, nice roller for street/strip

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: 733404spdCuda] #1572073 02/01/14 02:26 PM 02/01/14 02:26 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Call over to Modern Cyl Heads and see when he could turn them around.... Bobs doing the work now days.. just have them CNCd

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: 733404spdCuda] #1572074 02/01/14 04:15 PM 02/01/14 04:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan B B3422W5 I Live Here
B3422W5 I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan	looks like a nice build, but I would definitely rethink what you have planned on the torque convertor front. I had a similar build to yours, just a hair more compression( 11.5 ish) Saw a lot of street use, and more than one 70 mile round trip jaunt to the track. Used an 8 inch convertor that flashed about 4800 with a comp flat tappet cam..107 lsa, installed at 104 260/266@50, 598/623 with 1.6 rockers. Dwayne Porter specc'ed the cam, was a comp. 10.70's at 3400 pounds,with exhaust, fun general purpose build. Eddies, tti 1 5/8 to 1 3/4 step headers, weiand excellerator, 1025 race demon 4150 style carb, 416 cubes. Ross pistons and eagle rods,727, 4.10 gears. 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: B3422W5] #1572075 02/01/14 04:24 PM 02/01/14 04:24 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: looks like a nice build, but I would definitely rethink what you have planned on the torque convertor front. I had a similar build to yours, just a hair more compression( 11.5 ish) Saw a lot of street use, and more than one 70 mile round trip jaunt to the track. Used an 8 inch convertor that flashed about 4800 with a comp flat tappet cam..107 lsa, installed at 104 260/266@50, 598/623 with 1.6 rockers. Dwayne Porter specc'ed the cam, was a comp. 10.70's at 3400 pounds,with exhaust, fun general purpose build. Eddies, tti 1 5/8 to 1 3/4 step headers, weiand excellerator, 1025 race demon 4150 style carb, 416 cubes. Ross pistons and eagle rods,727, 4.10 gears. needs a converter change

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: Quicktree] #1572076 02/01/14 05:30 PM 02/01/14 05:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 149 N. Of Detroit, Mi 7 733404spdCuda OP member
733404spdCuda OP member 7 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 149 N. Of Detroit, Mi	Great advice guys, the converter is currently in the car. Can defiantly change it out during the engine swap. was your car a little too much on the street? my car will see 90% street action, so i don't want to get crazy with the cam, converter and rear gear.

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: 733404spdCuda] #1572077 02/01/14 07:10 PM 02/01/14 07:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan B B3422W5 I Live Here
B3422W5 I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan	Quote: Great advice guys, the converter is currently in the car. Can defiantly change it out during the engine swap. was your car a little too much on the street? my car will see 90% street action, so i don't want to get crazy with the cam, converter and rear gear. Probably 70/30 strip street. Even a 4.10 type gear at 60 mph ish with a 28 inch tire runs 3000-3200 or so, paying attention with convertor choice. That isn't gonna hurt anything. The cam I ran used ultra mild spring pressures, could put thousands of miles on such a setup. Even an 8 inch convertor with good tranny pan and. cooler should live just fine. You have a lot of nice parts there and wanting heads ported. Why saddle the combo to run 12's when it can runs 10's 90% as reliably. 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: 733404spdCuda] #1572078 02/01/14 09:25 PM 02/01/14 09:25 PM
Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 458 Michigan BPE mopar
BPE mopar Joined: Oct 2008 Posts: 458 Michigan	Talk to Brett Miller for the heads. He goes by W5DART66. That's where all my heads go now, he's a straight shooter and won't give you bogus info. Rod

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: 733404spdCuda] #1572079 02/01/14 10:55 PM 02/01/14 10:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,485 SoCal Brian Hafliger master
Brian Hafliger master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,485 SoCal	Quote: I�m building a small block 408 and need help picking out a cam that is good for a street / strip Cuda on pump gas or E-85 if required. I�m a little concerned about the compression and know the cam selection is critical. Below are the details of the build: 1974 360 block, .030 over, cylinders race honed with plates, sonic tested, deck trued, line honed. .030 Diamond pistons part #51026. Eagle H-beam rods Eagle Forged 4.00" crankshaft. Edelbrock #60775 63cc aluminum cylinder heads. Compression should be between 10.5 and 11 with the 63cc heads (Could I reduce this with Cometic head gaskets?) Stall is 2600 - 2800 and 3.91 rear Also looking for a good shop to port the heads that can turn them around in a few months. Thanks for the help Jim When porting those heads, the chambers get ported and will be larger so don't worry about compression. If your wanting hyd. roller we normally use something like 236-242@ .050 and about .580-.600 lift. This is a real nice street grind that makes great TQ and HP with a good idle (slightly rough). Brian Brian Hafliger

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: BPE] #1572080 02/01/14 11:01 PM 02/01/14 11:01 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	Curtis Boggs did my Edelbrocks and they work well. Call Hughes Engines for a cam.

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: justinp61] #1572081 02/02/14 12:27 AM 02/02/14 12:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Another for "Dwayne Porter" as he worked my heads and speced out my cam which works real good. Ron

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: justinp61] #1572082 02/02/14 12:59 AM 02/02/14 12:59 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,395 Pa Hot 340 master
Hot 340 master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,395 Pa	Quote: Curtis Boggs did my Edelbrocks and they work well. Call Hughes Engines for a cam. What flow numbers you get if you don't mind me asking.. you can pm me if you want.

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: Hot 340] #1572083 02/05/14 06:32 AM 02/05/14 06:32 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 149 N. Of Detroit, Mi 7 733404spdCuda OP member
733404spdCuda OP member 7 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 149 N. Of Detroit, Mi	Thanks for all the good info! I talked to bob at MCH and he will be CNC porting the heads. i'm going to take your advice on the cam and go with a hyd roller and a converter change. I will give you guys an update after we dyno the motor... Jim Pic of the car the motor is going into: 8027337-IMG_3030Cuda.JPG (65 downloads) Last edited by 733404spdCuda; 02/05/14 06:35 AM.

Re: Need Cam Help 408 Street / Strip [Re: 733404spdCuda] #1572084 02/05/14 10:35 AM 02/05/14 10:35 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,178 Indy FlyFish super stock
FlyFish super stock Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,178 Indy	My 410 stroker has a comp XR286R cam in it and Edelbrock heads ported by Ryan Johnson at Shadydell Speed Shop. My car is street/strip, 3200#'s, pump gas, 10.8:1 compression, 8" converter, and runs 6.70's in the 1/8 (mid 10's in the 1/4). Current times in sig below. I like this cam because it is easy on parts and makes good power. 67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....

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