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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: wrightracing]
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02/18/14 01:34 AM
02/18/14 01:34 AM
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OHIO
THE GLASS MAN
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From past experience Friday night test/tune is worthless if the track is running the show [little to no track prep] and at that date evening temps will require track prep. As for n/ss to try to run time trials,class,and eliminations all in one day seems like it will be to much of a rush.
Sounds like friday would be a good night to claim your pit spot, do any last minute tuning, and posibly a run or 2. Matbe even a tech in and card.
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: wrightracing]
#1566413
02/21/14 01:12 PM
02/21/14 01:12 PM
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sixpackjeff
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From past experience Friday night test/tune is worthless if the track is running the show [little to no track prep] and at that date evening temps will require track prep. As for n/ss to try to run time trials,class,and eliminations all in one day seems like it will be to much of a rush.
You may be right. However consider a normal 200 car weekend bracket race; time trials at 10am, eliminations at 2pm. If we get a large car count we can run later or run deep rounds on Sunday. The point of this experiment is to keep expenses down for everyone. I think the days of pit parking on Wednesday and showing up late for work on Monday are over. I welcome your thoughts. Here's the schedule as it is currently.
Saturday Schedule:
9:00am Tech inspection opens.
10:00am Open time trial #1 for Pro, Super Pro and Sportsman.
11:15am Time trial #1 for Nostalgia Super Stock.
11:30am Qualifier #1 for Quick 16.
11:45am Time Trial #2 for Pro, Super Pro and Sportsman.
1:15pm Time trial #2 for Nostalgia Super Stock.
1:30pm Qualifier #2 for Quick 16.
1:45pm Time Trial #3 for Pro, Super Pro
2:45pm Nostalgia Super Stock class run offs (3:15pm, 3:45pm).
3:00pm Qualifier #3 for Quick 16.
3:15pm Fun Run for Car Show Trophy and Gen III Hemis
3:30pm Clean-up trial for Pro, Super Pro and Sportsman.
4:00pm Quick 16 Eliminations
4:15pm Fun Run for Show Trophy and Gen III.
4:30pm Nostalgia Super Stock Eliminations. Car show judging closes.
5:00pm Gambler’s Race (Box, No Box).
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: sixpackjeff]
#1566414
02/21/14 03:15 PM
02/21/14 03:15 PM
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COLUMBUS, OH
Whompin_Wedge
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From past experience Friday night test/tune is worthless if the track is running the show [little to no track prep] and at that date evening temps will require track prep. As for n/ss to try to run time trials,class,and eliminations all in one day seems like it will be to much of a rush.
You may be right. However consider a normal 200 car weekend bracket race; time trials at 10am, eliminations at 2pm. If we get a large car count we can run later or run deep rounds on Sunday. The point of this experiment is to keep expenses down for everyone. I think the days of pit parking on Wednesday and showing up late for work on Monday are over. I welcome your thoughts. Here's the schedule as it is currently.
Saturday Schedule:
9:00am Tech inspection opens.
10:00am Open time trial #1 for Pro, Super Pro and Sportsman.
11:15am Time trial #1 for Nostalgia Super Stock.
11:30am Qualifier #1 for Quick 16.
11:45am Time Trial #2 for Pro, Super Pro and Sportsman.
1:15pm Time trial #2 for Nostalgia Super Stock.
1:30pm Qualifier #2 for Quick 16.
1:45pm Time Trial #3 for Pro, Super Pro
2:45pm Nostalgia Super Stock class run offs (3:15pm, 3:45pm).
3:00pm Qualifier #3 for Quick 16.
3:15pm Fun Run for Car Show Trophy and Gen III Hemis
3:30pm Clean-up trial for Pro, Super Pro and Sportsman.
4:00pm Quick 16 Eliminations
4:15pm Fun Run for Show Trophy and Gen III.
4:30pm Nostalgia Super Stock Eliminations. Car show judging closes.
5:00pm Gambler’s Race (Box, No Box).
Sounds good! We will be there! Hope we get a packed house!
Casey
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: 69dart]
#1566416
02/22/14 02:40 PM
02/22/14 02:40 PM
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sixpackjeff
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I would love to see a Friday night gamblers race or after hours golf cart races are always fun.
Regardless I'm thankful this mopar race lives on and can't wait for spring! 
Me too!
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: drmopar]
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02/26/14 11:55 AM
02/26/14 11:55 AM
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Jeff, we need a real Mopar event in Michigan. Ohio gets all the events. 
After running a Nostalgia Pro Stock event there a couple years ago, I thought we were on track to return to Milan next year. Unfortuately for us, their manager moved on to another facility. It seems Milan has now reverted to their policy of not wanting to wotk with outside promoters.
We also went to Martin several years ago but the manager there was unwilling to work with us on building the event. He even skipped out on us right before we were to sit down for the settlement. Regardless of the potential, I can't do business with people I don't trust or like.
That leaves Mid Michigan in Stanton but it's kind of a haul...unless anyone knows of a smaller MI track that wants an event.
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: sixpackjeff]
#1566418
02/26/14 12:41 PM
02/26/14 12:41 PM
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ohio
dbran451
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Jeff, we need a real Mopar event in Michigan. Ohio gets all the events.
. Regardless of the potential, I can't do business with people I don't trust or like.
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that's to funny coming from you
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: sixpackjeff]
#1566419
02/26/14 01:04 PM
02/26/14 01:04 PM
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Mt. Vernon, Ohio
dartman366
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Jeff, we need a real Mopar event in Michigan. Ohio gets all the events.
After running a Nostalgia Pro Stock event there a couple years ago, I thought we were on track to return to Milan next year. Unfortuately for us, their manager moved on to another facility. It seems Milan has now reverted to their policy of not wanting to wotk with outside promoters.
We also went to Martin several years ago but the manager there was unwilling to work with us on building the event. He even skipped out on us right before we were to sit down for the settlement. Regardless of the potential, I can't do business with people I don't trust or like.
That leaves Mid Michigan in Stanton but it's kind of a haul...unless anyone knows of a smaller track that wants an event.
Kil-Kare in Xenia
Dragway 42 in W.Salem but not sure how soon the facility will be ready.
Pacemakers nice 1/8 mile track, 50 miles NE of columbus, it's under new management and the new manager is hungry for some action.
Kanawha Valley 12 miles south of Galipolis Oh, nice 1/8 mile track, I think that is another hungry one. 
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: dartman366]
#1566420
02/26/14 07:21 PM
02/26/14 07:21 PM
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wisconsin
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How bout one at great lakes speedway here in wis?????? Swifter
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2008 Dodge Nitro
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: BigFish69]
#1566422
02/27/14 12:05 PM
02/27/14 12:05 PM
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What seems to be the problem running n/ss on sunday insted of jamming everthing on saturday. How about gamblers race for n/ss & hemi for saturday its a long ride for one day event. I don't think a few extra bucks for entry would keep people away but one day race will.
Whatever you guys want to do. Racers have commented in the past that running only for a class trophy on Saturday was a waste. The way it's set up now, you could run Pro on Sunday. We could also add a NSS Gamblers on Sunday. My suggestion would be to run first round of NSS on Saturday, then you could run the regular Gamblers Saturday night. Round 2 of NSS would be Sunday morning and you could still buy into Pro, if you wanted to. BUT if everyone really wants to change it back to our old format, you wouldn't have to run class on Saturday to run the eliminator on Sunday. OK, let's hear it from all you NSS guys...
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: sixpackjeff]
#1566423
02/27/14 01:00 PM
02/27/14 01:00 PM
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I don't think I ever ran one of your races Jeff but its nice to see your flexible, a good communicator, and available. Communication with the racers goes a long way in whether a race series is successful or not.
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: sixpackjeff]
#1566424
02/27/14 04:10 PM
02/27/14 04:10 PM
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COLUMBUS, OH
Whompin_Wedge
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What seems to be the problem running n/ss on sunday insted of jamming everthing on saturday. How about gamblers race for n/ss & hemi for saturday its a long ride for one day event. I don't think a few extra bucks for entry would keep people away but one day race will.
Whatever you guys want to do. Racers have commented in the past that running only for a class trophy on Saturday was a waste. The way it's set up now, you could run Pro on Sunday. We could also add a NSS Gamblers on Sunday. My suggestion would be to run first round of NSS on Saturday, then you could run the regular Gamblers Saturday night. Round 2 of NSS would be Sunday morning and you could still buy into Pro, if you wanted to. BUT if everyone really wants to change it back to our old format, you wouldn't have to run class on Saturday to run the eliminator on Sunday. OK, let's hear it from all you NSS guys...
NSS gamblers Sat 40 bucks a car. NSS eliminator Sunday. Thats what I would like to see. I would rather not run PRO sunday.
Casey
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: Whompin_Wedge]
#1566425
02/27/14 05:14 PM
02/27/14 05:14 PM
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Newark,Ohio
kissmyaspen
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What seems to be the problem running n/ss on sunday insted of jamming everthing on saturday. How about gamblers race for n/ss & hemi for saturday its a long ride for one day event. I don't think a few extra bucks for entry would keep people away but one day race will.
Whatever you guys want to do. Racers have commented in the past that running only for a class trophy on Saturday was a waste. The way it's set up now, you could run Pro on Sunday. We could also add a NSS Gamblers on Sunday. My suggestion would be to run first round of NSS on Saturday, then you could run the regular Gamblers Saturday night. Round 2 of NSS would be Sunday morning and you could still buy into Pro, if you wanted to. BUT if everyone really wants to change it back to our old format, you wouldn't have to run class on Saturday to run the eliminator on Sunday. OK, let's hear it from all you NSS guys...
NSS gamblers Sat 40 bucks a car. NSS eliminator Sunday. Thats what I would like to see. I would rather not run PRO sunday.
Casey
 minus the running pro thing..
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'07, '10, '12 Mopar Nats runner-up Street.
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: kissmyaspen]
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02/27/14 05:52 PM
02/27/14 05:52 PM
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Aurora, Oh.
max_maniac
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What seems to be the problem running n/ss on sunday insted of jamming everthing on saturday. How about gamblers race for n/ss & hemi for saturday its a long ride for one day event. I don't think a few extra bucks for entry would keep people away but one day race will.
Whatever you guys want to do. Racers have commented in the past that running only for a class trophy on Saturday was a waste. The way it's set up now, you could run Pro on Sunday. We could also add a NSS Gamblers on Sunday. My suggestion would be to run first round of NSS on Saturday, then you could run the regular Gamblers Saturday night. Round 2 of NSS would be Sunday morning and you could still buy into Pro, if you wanted to. BUT if everyone really wants to change it back to our old format, you wouldn't have to run class on Saturday to run the eliminator on Sunday. OK, let's hear it from all you NSS guys...
NSS gamblers Sat 40 bucks a car. NSS eliminator Sunday. Thats what I would like to see. I would rather not run PRO sunday.
Casey
minus the running pro thing..
I like the Sat gamblers and run NSS on Sunday.
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway
[Re: pittsburghracer]
#1566430
03/04/14 11:59 AM
03/04/14 11:59 AM
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sixpackjeff
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I don't think I ever ran one of your races Jeff but its nice to see your flexible, a good communicator, and available. Communication with the racers goes a long way in whether a race series is successful or not.
Thanks John. I've been on all sides of the fence. I've swapped professsionally. I've built an OE concours Hemi Road Runner. I've raced a Li'l Red Truck in Sportsman, a Challenger in Pro J373, a Duster in S/ST 3054, plus I've crewed on a Stock Eliminator, an Alcohol Funny Car and an ARCA Super Car. I always put myself in the customers position in order to make our events as enjoyable as possible.
Any more input on NSS from anyone?
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