T-56 and hydraulic clutch
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Debatable if this topic goes here or Q&A, but since most of the handling/pro-touring folks lurk here...
Situation: I have a Viper V10 in a b-body with the stock 4-spd pedal setup. The T-56 comes with a hydraulic throwout bearing. Unfortunately, I can not use the viper-truck clutch master cylinder/linkages (just wont fit).
What I am looking for, are examples that y'all have used to install either piece part (or kit preferrably) a hydraulic master cylinder.
I have found kits from American Power-train...and Kiesler... looking if anybody used these. Unfortunately these "kits" are $$$.
I've also seen people use wilwood 7/8" master cylinders/etc. and I assume they are engineering out the various linkages to the pedals.
So folks - what have you seen/done and do you have pictures and part #'s? What's worked well and what hasn't?
1970 Charger - V10, 6spd, Alterkation, Street Lynx 4 Link, Moser Dana 60, Wilwood 14" disks, Forgeline 18" Wheels (Rear:335's), ISIS Multiplexing Wiring http://www.v10mopar.com
2012 Charger SRT8
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
[Re: OzHemi]
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01/14/14 05:04 PM
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Here is mine, home fabbed. American Powertrain sells a nice $600 "bolt in" kit too.
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
[Re: 72Swinger]
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Wilwood 7/8" bore seems to work lovely with Viper slave.
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
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01/14/14 05:09 PM
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Ended up needing a braided brake line for packaging reasons.
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
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Awesome replies - just perfect. I can get the wilwood 7/8" master with ~1.1"-1.4" throw for like $75... Oz - yeah i believe the viper has that funky quick disconnect deal... (Is your picture backwards? wrong side ) I'll see if i can snap a picture of the line connection - I anticipate that will be the biggest hassle. I like the AN fitting idea on one end. Time to order parts and post an update in a month or so.
1970 Charger - V10, 6spd, Alterkation, Street Lynx 4 Link, Moser Dana 60, Wilwood 14" disks, Forgeline 18" Wheels (Rear:335's), ISIS Multiplexing Wiring http://www.v10mopar.com
2012 Charger SRT8
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
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Awesome! That makes the problem easier. Gotta love amazon - picked up the wilwood master and that fitting above for $66/$18 respectively. Now i need the line (I will wait to measure that) and to mock up the bracket/etc. I like the hiem joint above - care to share any specifics on thread/etc?
1970 Charger - V10, 6spd, Alterkation, Street Lynx 4 Link, Moser Dana 60, Wilwood 14" disks, Forgeline 18" Wheels (Rear:335's), ISIS Multiplexing Wiring http://www.v10mopar.com
2012 Charger SRT8
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
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01/14/14 05:58 PM
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I went to my local circle track supply store and picked up the heim and the line. IIRC the heim is just a 1/4x3/8" female and line is a 36" -3 with a 90 on one end and a straight on the other, think it cost me $18.
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
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Quote:
Mine is along the same lines under the dash...
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
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I went to my local circle track supply store and picked up the heim ..
I got mine from Speedway Motors..they had a really nice selection. (Used them for all the ends I got to use on my adjustable sway bar end links as well)
And think mine was a 5/16 or 3/8? Would have to get under the dash and measure it, but the push rod on mine might be a different diameter than that wilwood one anyways..
I run ran a die over the rod and went with that size. (luckily it happened to be a handy outside diameter for the die as it was as well)
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
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(Is your picture backwards? wrong side )
It is on the Right side actually.
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
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01/14/14 06:35 PM
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Thanks guys - you've made this *easy* and saved me over $200 at least. I'll post pics when done.
1970 Charger - V10, 6spd, Alterkation, Street Lynx 4 Link, Moser Dana 60, Wilwood 14" disks, Forgeline 18" Wheels (Rear:335's), ISIS Multiplexing Wiring http://www.v10mopar.com
2012 Charger SRT8
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Re: T-56 and hydraulic clutch
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01/15/14 07:29 AM
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Interesting. You have your master mounted inside the firewall.
I'm running a viper T56 in my Dakota. Using a stock Dakota master cylinder, stock SRT-10 truck hyd. TO bearing, and plumbing is handled with braided steel line and the russel fittings linked above.
Fits and works like the factory designed it that way
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