Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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GM did the shock staggering originally back in the 1960s for the Trans Am Road racing cars, it helped thier lap times There have been some drag cars try the shocks mounted in the front but we don't see that anymore
You might want to check out the latest built heads-up cars. Quite a few leaf spring cars have gone with the shocks in the front.
It really makes no difference if they are in front or rear.. in front they just need stronger valving to cover for the percentage of change
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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GM did the shock staggering originally back in the 1960s for the Trans Am Road racing cars, it helped thier lap times There have been some drag cars try the shocks mounted in the front but we don't see that anymore
You might want to check out the latest built heads-up cars. Quite a few leaf spring cars have gone with the shocks in the front.
It really makes no difference if they are in front or rear.. in front they just need stronger valving to cover for the percentage of change
What spring segment are you trying to control? Front or back? Why not mount shock on that segment. Some chassis builders are trying it in small tire stuff. It's really easy for me to do. Swap leaf spring/shock mounts side to side so shock mounts face forward. Weld bar for upper shock mount in done. Doesn't work stock uppers still there and swap plates back.
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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Soon, after the new year it will get done on my car.
Brad are you going to mount them in front of the rear too or no.
Where are yours mounted Mr. 8 3/4 9.0 guy..........
I think I like them better mounted in front of the rear.Then if u want to run a anti roll bar you have room to do that to.
I have mounted the shocks in front and in the rear but I just mount the anti roll on the opposite side of the diff than the shocks.. so yes if you mount them in front then yes you mount the anti roll in the rear and visa versa
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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Not too far off topic, but are there any risks to going to a vertical shock on the street? I still plan to drive the car on the street a fair amount, but I am not trying to carve canyons or anything. I am currently running SS springs, but may make the switch to Caltracs if I can't get this thing to hook. After crawling underneath and taking some measurments, I will not be able to move the upper mount outward very much (without re-working the exhaust, fuel lines, trunk floor where the fuel cell is sectioned in, etc.) So my next option looks to be to move the lower mount inward, away from the tire/spring. I understand that this is not ideal, but how big of an issue would this be? I have the means to make some small brackets, weld them to the rear and make a new upper mount, but if I have to re-engineer everything aft of the axle, I may re-think my approach. Any input is appreciated.
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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Not too far off topic, but are there any risks to going to a vertical shock on the street? I still plan to drive the car on the street a fair amount, but I am not trying to carve canyons or anything.
I am currently running SS springs, but may make the switch to Caltracs if I can't get this thing to hook.
After crawling underneath and taking some measurments, I will not be able to move the upper mount outward very much (without re-working the exhaust, fuel lines, trunk floor where the fuel cell is sectioned in, etc.) So my next option looks to be to move the lower mount inward, away from the tire/spring. I understand that this is not ideal, but how big of an issue would this be?
I have the means to make some small brackets, weld them to the rear and make a new upper mount, but if I have to re-engineer everything aft of the axle, I may re-think my approach.
Any input is appreciated.
You would like the shocks out as far as possible so its easier to control and roll rate(depending on the rear set up)but if running a ladder bar you want them out as far also... thats why we tend to run the shocks on the back of the ladder bar brackets.... the reason the shocks were angled was to give a straight line load when the car was in a corner which is when it had the most roll rate to it
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Re: NEED PICS OV VERTICALLY MOUNTED SHOCKS.................
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We moved mine verticle when we did my cage. The upper bar ties in the rear speaker tray bars going down into the trunk & is the upper shock bar mount. Also added the anti-roll bar at the same time.
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