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Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: hemi-itis] #1554083
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Yes that is the replacement car Built by "Bill the Plumber" in the early 90s That I saw him cut up. The car I pictured was his 1st car. He also had a 66 Charger"Limelight".
Doug

Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: dvw] #1554084
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Here's the lastest one I've seen. Still has the original paint.


Jerry Williams.
Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: hemidup] #1554085
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Restored this one in 06-07`.
Locally built with factory supplied peices in the summer of 66`.

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70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas
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Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1554086
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Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1554087
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Rick Johnson's self altered WB...nobody ever checked!


The little old lady from Pasadena is back!
Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: Barnstorm] #1554088
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the limelight car now oned by jim kramer and I have the 65 mckesson car


1965 A/FX Plymouth 9.50 et @139 mph
1965 A/FX awb plymouth flashback [email]10.26@129mph[/email] mph on pump gas 426 hemi
1969 GTX Hemi 4 speed 12.50 et @ 112mph in F.A.S.T TRIM
1970 GTX 4406pac 4 speed 11.05 @126.9 mph in F.A.S.T TRIM

http://www.AFXER.com
Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1554089
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Restored this one in 06-07`.
Locally built with factory supplied peices in the summer of 66`.




Did you have that car at rhe "reunion"??

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Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: hemi-itis] #1554090
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Yes thats it.


70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas
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Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1554091
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This thread is exactly what I had suggested months back so that enthusiast and traders of such cars could chat, trade, buy and sell parts/ideas about these altered sedans. Great thread.
I would call it "The short legged " version.

Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1554092
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Six inch forward

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8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky
Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: gregsdart] #1554093
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Blue prints where mentioned in an earlier post, are copy's of these available? I have a 65 I would like to clone and they would be a great asset.

Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: gregsdart] #1554094
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Six inch forward




Nice stance!


Cuda, -70
Valiant-65 AWB,
Valiant Signet200 -65 Topchopped dragcar.
Topolino Fuel Altered.
NostalgiaFED Sold,
SuperComp Bantam Altered, Sold
Ex Harlan Thompsons Nitro funny car American Graffiti Sold,
Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: RSNOMO] #1554095
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Heard that white car that says 'Dave Strickler' on the door sold for some righteous coin that weekend...



If you are talking about the All Hemi Reunion in 2008 that is not true. Nick Smith owned the car then and still owns it along with the Landy car....


Jody Aberts 1966 Fairlane 427 Troublemaker2 AA/NSS 1964 Galaxie 500XL 390-4spd. 1966 F-100 390-C6 1967 Plymouth VIP 383-TF 2003 Roadking
Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: 1968beepbeep] #1554096
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Strickler Hemi SS car now owned by Frank Lupo. One of 3 '64's Dave owned in 1964.

This car is not the 2% AFX car. That car is unrestored and in Indiana.


Jody Aberts 1966 Fairlane 427 Troublemaker2 AA/NSS 1964 Galaxie 500XL 390-4spd. 1966 F-100 390-C6 1967 Plymouth VIP 383-TF 2003 Roadking
Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: cudaman1969] #1554097
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Blue prints where mentioned in an earlier post, are copy's of these available? I have a 65 I would like to clone and they would be a great asset.




Full size blueprints are out there, they came with the pallet of parts the factory sent out to racers. They usually don’t get sold or loaned out because they get copied. Greg Lane had a similar problem when he sold full size Hemi blueprints. This is why a lot of info stays in private hands. Not saying the prints aren’t out there…one guy in this thread has one.

There is a small, semi-useful, 21 page manual numbered 4208.7 that is now in the public domain… These used to be hard to come by years ago even though they don’t show very much detail… http://www.moparmax.com/features/2006/images/05-report/report.pdf

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Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: 64Post] #1554098
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Does this count? 8HP. Would be a Mopar in it...if it would fit.

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Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: 64Post] #1554099
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Full size blueprints are out there, they came with the pallet of parts the factory sent out to racers. They usually don’t get sold or loaned out because they get copied. Not saying the prints aren’t out there… Greg Lane had a similar problem when he sold full size Hemi blueprints. This is why a lot of info stays in private hands.



Hence the taboo part. 64 post is correct, 4208.7 is semi useful. Although the pics are very grainy, the narrative explains a lot of it.
I didn't try to follow the narrative and pictures with my car because I wasn't trying to copy something that was authentic. There are actually a few easier ways to accomplish the rear relocation other than whats is depicted in 4208.7. Be prepared to do a lot of measuring and remeasuring and then remeasuring prior to doing any cutting.
It also depicts the relocation of the front torsion bar cross-member and frame sections. No information for using the A-100 strait-axle front suspension. This was not factory supplied with the first cars. This came sometime later once the cars were considered to be illegal. (that's the story I got don't any one crucify me if its incorrect)

I wasn't fortunate enough to have grown up in the time frame when theses cars ruled the track. Hopefully some where down the line more info will become available but I don't see it happening anytime soon.

Enclosed is a pic of where the right rear frame of mine is cut. The shinier metal is new 18ga frame rails fabricated to match the existing rails. original rear bumper mounts are retained while allowing all suspension mounting points to remain intact as designed.


...FAFO...
Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: skicker] #1554100
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I remember mike coming to the Tuesday night cruze in with some markings on the 1/4 panel


HEMI-ITIS has no cure.
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Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: hemi-itis] #1554101
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Next time I saw it


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Re: No Altered Wheelbase threads?Can we start one? [Re: hemi-itis] #1554102
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I'm in the process of building a 65 Coronet altered wheelbase clone. Document 4208.7 refers to the front frame layout 716-6734. Does anyone have that plan which shows all the bolt and fixture holes. I really need to know the total length of the new rails.

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