Re: Picking up some W-2's today, going full-circle
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Streetwize, please keep us informed how the W2's work on 440 ci. There has been much discussion on this forum stating that they're too small. I'm seriously considering the same thing which would be 449ci with a good set of W2's. I have a Procharger I'm considering sticking on it also. Keep us posted!!!!!
they will work great. they are not to small. mine is a tad smaller at 436''.
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Re: Picking up some W-2's today, going full-circle
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Re: Picking up some W-2's today, going full-circle
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Not sure yet but the plan is with the 4.25" crank having 2" sbc journals and using a 6.200 rod that's going to allow me to use a super light 1.26 CH SBC (for a 350 SBC with a 6" rod) Icon race piston and pin and we'll just flycut the valve reliefs for the Mopar valves
I figure the Bobweight should be sub 1800 grams or right at it, a good bit lighter than most 408-416's wind up with 1.47 ish CH.
If you order the pistons for an 18 degree sbc the valve notches will be close to perfect. My
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Re: Picking up some W-2's today, going full-circle
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My 408 was 1800.
My 430 with BPE 4.125 crank - compstar 6.200 rods and longer CH piston was 1749 grams
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Re: Picking up some W-2's today, going full-circle
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Hey Wize , what happend to those heads you were testing a while back ?? I haven't been on here in a while. Did they ever work out on your rocky ??
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Re: Picking up some W-2's today, going full-circle
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Yes sub 1800 maybe closer to 1700 and 1800 is right around where most 408-416's wind-up (as is mine at 1804), but how much lighter I'm not sure yet but I know those Icon slugs are very light compared to the standard 4" mopar stroker slugs and the ch is ideal, so why not figure out a way to use them?
By super light I was really thinking more to next to a comparable 440 cube big block.
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Re: Picking up some W-2's today, going full-circle
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my 436'' with Molnar 4.125'' crank, callies 6.200 rods, diamond pistons is 1766 grams
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Re: Picking up some W-2's today, going full-circle
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79410, yeah that's why I'm thinking around 1700. the skirt design of tht SBC ICON race piston is very similar to the SRP, My Machinist Hollis page thinks we can make them work and the bob will come up really light. The BPE 4.25 crank also has the smaller 2" journals so the rod throws themselves will be just a tad lighter as well.
The new LS style pistons are sub 400 grams for a 4.00-4.06 bore.
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Re: Picking up some W-2's today, going full-circle
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Thanks! I think a good 2.08 incher with an 11/32 stem would work great for what I'm planning. I've seen 2.12"s going in W2's back in the 80's but that may have been coupled with a 1.56" exhaust valve (and maybe a bit of fancy offset guide work) but I know it has been done before. I know I'll be swapping out the Cam Motion 261/266 @.050 Mild Endurance ramp roller out of the 414 and into this one since it's a very streetable ramp, with the 1.6:1 rockers it will be .628/.604 lift, should be fun. Oh and the Street Dommy intake DOES look identical internally to the Strip Dommy, I think I remember how to coax a few more ponies out of them. Not as much meat to work with as you have with a Vic but it will serve my purpose fine. I got to admit that the angle milling to get the valves to 16 degrees and getting a quench pad in the same motion has got me thinking. I gave $850.00 for the 2 bare heads, A full set of offset intake roller rockers, billet shaft blocks/hold downs and the intake, not too bad a deal I reckon. Here's a pic
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Re: Picking up some W-2's today, going full-circle
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11/18/13 04:03 PM
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I think Holley made a "pro dominator" W2 Tunnel Ram, wonder how hard one of those would be to find?
I have a brand new one at the shop if interested.
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