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727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive #1511726 10/02/13 09:53 PM 10/02/13 09:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE RangerDan440 OP I Live Here
RangerDan440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE	Bench rebuilt 727, it worked fine for a couple of hundred miles after I first installed it in the car, then it sat for awhile and now when I put it in drive, it just moves a couple of feet and that's it. It still has reverse though. Please tell me it just needs a band adjustment?

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: RangerDan440] #1511727 10/02/13 11:02 PM 10/02/13 11:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A.	it needs a band adjustment .... Sorry , the bands have nothing to do wit hit in first. If you shift it to manual low will it drive ?

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: JohnRR] #1511728 10/02/13 11:06 PM 10/02/13 11:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE RangerDan440 OP I Live Here
RangerDan440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE	Quote: If you shift it to manual low will it drive ? nope doesn't reverse and 1st use the same band?

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: RangerDan440] #1511729 10/03/13 12:47 AM 10/03/13 12:47 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A.	Quote: Quote: If you shift it to manual low will it drive ? nope doesn't reverse and 1st use the same band? yes they do but band is only used in manual low , otherwise the rear sprag is doing the holding of the rear drum. Your issue could be the rear clutch.

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: JohnRR] #1511730 10/03/13 03:00 PM 10/03/13 03:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,786 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,786 Rio Linda, CA	Yep, rear clutch. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: John_Kunkel] #1511731 10/03/13 04:34 PM 10/03/13 04:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE RangerDan440 OP I Live Here
RangerDan440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,861 Gloucester,VA STOP MOVING HERE	grrrr...... Is that a DITY job or am I sending it to a transmission guy? I know little about automatic transmissions beyond adjusting bands, valve bodys and basic maintenance.

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: RangerDan440] #1511732 10/03/13 04:36 PM 10/03/13 04:36 PM
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RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer R Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 -	Now's a perfect time to become acquainted with the inner-workings of a Torqueflite...

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: RangerDan440] #1511733 10/03/13 04:43 PM 10/03/13 04:43 PM
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80fbody mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	I really enjoyed rebuilding my 1st trans this year. Picked up a couple of widely read books & had at it. Only takes a few tools & some patience. Had a couple of small rookie issues but I saved a ton of dough & now have no concern rebuilding them in the future. The time/tools will pay for itself ten fold, IMHO.

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: RangerDan440] #1511734 10/03/13 06:06 PM 10/03/13 06:06 PM
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feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX	Quote: grrrr...... Is that a DITY job or am I sending it to a transmission guy? I know little about automatic transmissions beyond adjusting bands, valve bodys and basic maintenance. Get a factory service manual and tear into the transmission. It's really not that hard. I've done a few. The only special tools you need are some snap ring pliers. It is a good idea to have a dial indicator to measure the end play on the shaft. We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: RangerDan440] #1511735 10/03/13 06:43 PM 10/03/13 06:43 PM
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RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer R Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 -	There's a lot of difference between a basic rebuild, and a full-boogie race unit... What 'chu gonna do??? Gonna look at sprag options??? Play with line pressure??? Look at drum and band options??? 'Re-program' the shift-points??? It can be as wild, or as mild as you want it...

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: RangerDan440] #1511736 10/04/13 12:31 AM 10/04/13 12:31 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A.	you need a good set of snap ring pliers and a set of lock ring pliers for the lock ring on the bearing in the tailshaft. lock ring pliers

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: JohnRR] #1511737 10/04/13 02:09 AM 10/04/13 02:09 AM
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70AARcuda master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,826 las vegas	and how about compressing the front drum to get the lip seals? and removing and replacing bushing....at least the pump, front drum and tail bushings.... if you gotta do it..do it right.... forget the books...buy the video.. http://store.boxwrench.net/Chrysler-727-TorqueFlite-Transmission-Rebuild-DVD_p_70.html Tony 70 AARCuda Vitamin C 71 Dart Swinger 360 10.318 @ 128.22(10-04-14 Bakersfield) 71 Demon 360 10.666 @122.41 (01-29-17 @ Las Vegas) 71 Duster 408 (10.29 @ 127.86 3/16/19 Las Vegas)

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: 70AARcuda] #1511738 10/04/13 09:15 AM 10/04/13 09:15 AM
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MrSixpack super stock Joined: May 2004 Posts: 952 Stockholm, Sweden	To compress the lip seal I use zipties and then use freez spray to cool it, works great. Or you could zip tie it and put it in the freezer. Just my 1970 Super Stock Challenger ex. Paul Rossi 1968 Dodge Dart GT 340 1968 Dodge Charger /6 3 speed manual 1966 Chrysler 300 Loaded 1968 Dodge Charger R/T 440 1968 Mini Cooper

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: 70AARcuda] #1511739 10/04/13 10:01 AM 10/04/13 10:01 AM
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longram60 mopar Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 693 Dunnellon, FL	Quote: and removing and replacing bushing....at least the pump, front drum and tail bushings.... And having the proper size bushing drivers and a shop press makes this job a whole lot easier. 1979 AMC Spirit, NHRA Q/SA

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: longram60] #1511740 10/04/13 10:28 AM 10/04/13 10:28 AM
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80fbody mopar 8 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 596 Mass.	I bought a $120 press & a $50 bushing driver kit for doing these. Makes changing out the bushings a breeze. A homemade adapter & you can press the front clutch retainer on with ease as well. Doing one trans yourself easily pays for all the tools.

Re: 727 Only Lurches Forward In Drive [Re: longram60] #1511741 10/04/13 10:50 AM 10/04/13 10:50 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,005 U.S.S.A.	I use my Lisle Cam bearing install tool to isnatall and remove these bushing . another tool needed , or improvised , is one to compress the retainer for the springs on the front clutch.

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