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my E-85 experience. #1488381
08/21/13 02:35 PM
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Mt. Vernon, Ohio
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I like it, car likes it, but boy is it thirsty, started out friday afternoon at the Curt George Memorial and had some issues with it wanting to leave the line but after AJ and I worked on getting everything dialed it started to come around, what we didn't realize was how much squirter this motor wanted so we made amajor size change and eliminated the starting line bog/stumble,,,just in time for first elimination on Saturday,,needless to say I broke out BIG time and called it a day, I had dialed it at a 10.22 not knowing what it was going to do and the car came to life and clicked off a 10.16 at 128mph sunday was a little better with the time trial coming in at a 10.17@127 and settled in around 10.19 for the rest of the day,,the jetting is still way fat as it didn't build any heat down track and the idle circuit is fat also cause it takes forever to warm up and the fumes are heavy with the motor loading up slightly and takes a while to clean out in the burnout box, we made a lot of progress and with a little more work this thing is going to run great,,it didn't do too bad as I got down to 8 car's and brought home some money, thanks go to AJCasini for all the support and tech advise, I learned alot over the weekend and he was right by my side to walk me thru all this.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: dartman366] #1488382
08/21/13 02:38 PM
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good to hear, especailly for those who might want to go boosted in the future.


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Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: dartman366] #1488383
08/21/13 04:50 PM
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What or who,s carb did you switch to?. I agree about that track, its a little slow compared to others. Thompson Raceway is a little fast compared to others.

Glad you had a good day

Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: Sport440] #1488384
08/21/13 07:47 PM
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If it is 2 slow he was flying then !

Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: VernMotor] #1488385
08/21/13 09:35 PM
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I'm not too sure about the 2 slower at that track ---- I ran the same times there as I did in Bowling Green 2 weeks ago




Russ

Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: max_maniac] #1488386
08/21/13 10:18 PM
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The track is a bit slower around .1, goes uphill after the 1/8 mile. Been racing there many years and normally that difference from QCR to Pittsburgh.

Bill I am glad we could get ya going and put some money in your pocket on Sunday. Only better things to come as we fine tune that small block monster.

Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: VernMotor] #1488387
08/22/13 03:34 AM
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If it is 2 slow he was flying then !


I am sure Norwalk will tell the real story, going after a bleed set and MORE FUEL JUGS in the morning, I am planning on doing a little tuning at pacemakers on Sat and get it dialed closer, really don't want to eat up a bunch of passes at Norwalk cause I plan on taking some of their money too. as far as a slow track, I know that my 1/8 mile times were off a full tenth and my MPH was down about 3-4 mph in the 1/4 mile.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: dartman366] #1488388
08/22/13 02:15 PM
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Our MPH was down 1-2, but the car ran relatively the same as it did at Bowling Green like Russ said, actually went a tad quicker.

Good to see you are getting the E85 figured out Bill!

Casey

Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: Whompin_Wedge] #1488389
08/22/13 03:05 PM
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Our MPH was down 1-2, but the car ran relatively the same as it did at Bowling Green like Russ said, actually went a tad quicker.

Good to see you are getting the E85 figured out Bill!

Casey


I am sure some of it was the track but I believe most of it was in the tune, I plan on having that fixed soon, between the house remodeling and carpet showing up next tuesday I have been a busy,busy boy, with all the things I have on my plate right now I need a turky platter to hold it all.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: dartman366] #1488390
08/22/13 06:43 PM
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We were slow 2-3 MPH and .05-.08 too.


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Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: dartman366] #1488391
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buy an A/F guage, put in an O2 sensor and forget about "guessing" what it wants

Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: bwhackd34] #1488392
08/23/13 03:27 AM
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buy an A/F guage, put in an O2 sensor and forget about "guessing" what it wants


maybe santa claus is listening.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: dartman366] #1488393
08/24/13 07:12 PM
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You'll get there with the E85. As for the times, car ran the same Friday as it did the week before in Columbus. The converter went south Friday night so I'm going to be trying to dial it in at Norwalk also.

Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: bwhackd34] #1488394
08/24/13 07:17 PM
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Quote:

buy an A/F guage, put in an O2 sensor and forget about "guessing" what it wants


what a/f do you shoot for with e85? I know it isn't the 12.1 most guys shoot for with gas.


Mopar to the bone!!!
Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: 72Swinger] #1488395
08/25/13 11:15 AM
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Quote:

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buy an A/F guage, put in an O2 sensor and forget about "guessing" what it wants


what a/f do you shoot for with e85? I know it isn't the 12.1 most guys shoot for with gas.


I know using a EGT sensor will work too.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: dartman366] #1488396
08/25/13 10:06 PM
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There is no need for an A/F Gauge to get your E85 tune-up dialed in. I was talked into getting one and IMHO I thought it was a total waste of money. Most old school racers can dial their cars in just fine with a few test n tune runs down the track. Follow AJ's advise and get it to build a little heat going downtrack and be done with it. Save your money for something else.


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Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: 69dart] #1488397
08/25/13 11:20 PM
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getting a good wideband will give you more info than just afr tuneing.
i have a wego3 it showed me that the scoop was making my car ritchen up a lot making jetting for plug color at the end not showing you everything..
plus converter data. you can do it old skool but the wego3 can take some time away on guessing and hit a setup fast.

Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: 69dart] #1488398
08/26/13 12:18 AM
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There is no need for an A/F Gauge to get your E85 tune-up dialed in. I was talked into getting one and IMHO I thought it was a total waste of money. Most old school racers can dial their cars in just fine with a few test n tune runs down the track. Follow AJ's advise and get it to build a little heat going downtrack and be done with it. Save your money for something else.


I was going to go the the local track on Saturday thinking I had the weekend off,,well they changed that and I was scheduled Sunday, and I had some things to finish up with the house remod before the carpet guys show up this Tuesday, so I never got to play this weekend, definately need to jet it down and change the idle bleeds to thin it out,, after this coming week is over and the house is put back together then I can concentrate on the car and take it to Norwalk and see what happens.


Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.
Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: dartman366] #1488399
08/26/13 12:51 AM
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Quote:

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buy an A/F guage, put in an O2 sensor and forget about "guessing" what it wants


maybe santa claus is listening.




Forget the A/F meter on a race car... you know to tune
for the fastest MPH... then if you want you can take
a A/F reading... there is no magic number to tune to

Re: my E-85 experience. [Re: dartman366] #1488400
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Bill....I am glad it is working for you. AJ sure knows his stuff! Good luck!


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