Re: Jag fan clutch #
[Re: Suregrip391]
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08/21/13 02:15 PM
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I see, the fan from mopar performance comes with the clutch, you won't need that clutch because you need the shorter shaft Hayden clutch. I used my original fan on the Hayden with no problems, don't you have an original or perhaps you can find a used one? 
I might be able to use the MP unit however I'm using a 2 core (and the are much fatter than brass) 26" rad. I want to make sure it fits before I drop $115. Right now I'm running a Summit 18.5" plastic fan and it works great, but I hear I'm leaving 30hp on the table. I have run the MP piece before and on one car (67 coronet w/ a 440) it was too close to the rad... when you slammed on the brakes or took a hard trun the fins would rub the rad.
I don't think I can run the plastic fan w/ the clutch?? yes...no
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Re: Jag fan clutch #
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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08/21/13 02:18 PM
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I see, the fan from mopar performance comes with the clutch, you won't need that clutch because you need the shorter shaft Hayden clutch. I used my original fan on the Hayden with no problems, don't you have an original or perhaps you can find a used one?
I might be able to use the MP unit however I'm using a 2 core (and the are much fatter than brass) 26" rad. I want to make sure it fits before I drop $115. Right now I'm running a Summit 18.5" plastic fan and it works great, but I hear I'm leaving 30hp on the table. I have run the MP piece before and on one car (67 coronet w/ a 440) it was too close to the rad... when you slammed on the brakes or took a hard trun the fins would rub the rad.
I don't think I can run the plastic fan w/ the clutch?? yes...no
I honestly don't know if you can run plastic with it. I forget the exact specs but going out on a limb the Hayden clutch leaves you with roughly 1/2" more clearance. And that's basically all I had with no issues, granted I never drove the car hard... 
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Re: Jag fan clutch #
[Re: jlatessa]
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08/21/13 02:59 PM
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Related question; what's the solution to the VERY limited room to install the Jag clutch to the water pump?
Right now I installed studs (actually long hex set screws) with nuts
but I'm really not filled with confidence with that solution.
thanks, Joe
pull the radiator out I guess.
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Re: Jag fan clutch #
[Re: jlatessa]
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08/21/13 03:00 PM
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Related question; what's the solution to the VERY limited room to install the Jag clutch to the water pump?
Right now I installed studs (actually long hex set screws) with nuts
but I'm really not filled with confidence with that solution.
thanks, Joe
I was working on a 67' barracuda at the time I did this, it was Very tight working conditions but was still doable with a short open end wrench if I recall correctly. It will take time w/a few  breaks but it can be done.
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Re: Jag fan clutch #
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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08/21/13 03:02 PM
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Related question; what's the solution to the VERY limited room to install the Jag clutch to the water pump?
Right now I installed studs (actually long hex set screws) with nuts
but I'm really not filled with confidence with that solution.
thanks, Joe
pull the radiator out I guess.
If running a shroud, rad & shroud has to be in place or you will NEVER get the assembly back in and over the fan...
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Re: Jag fan clutch #
[Re: Suregrip391]
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08/21/13 03:10 PM
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Related question; what's the solution to the VERY limited room to install the Jag clutch to the water pump?
Right now I installed studs (actually long hex set screws) with nuts
but I'm really not filled with confidence with that solution.
thanks, Joe
pull the radiator out I guess.
If running a shroud, rad & shroud has to be in place or you will NEVER get the assembly back in and over the fan...
yes you'd pull the rad, install clutch and fan and any belts, then lay the shroud over the fan, install rad, move shroud back in place. Done that many times. That's how you pull the rad right? you remove the shroud...push it over the fan and remove it....
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Re: Jag fan clutch #
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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08/21/13 03:12 PM
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I see, the fan from mopar performance comes with the clutch, you won't need that clutch because you need the shorter shaft Hayden clutch. I used my original fan on the Hayden with no problems, don't you have an original or perhaps you can find a used one?
I might be able to use the MP unit however I'm using a 2 core (and the are much fatter than brass) 26" rad. I want to make sure it fits before I drop $115. Right now I'm running a Summit 18.5" plastic fan and it works great, but I hear I'm leaving 30hp on the table. I have run the MP piece before and on one car (67 coronet w/ a 440) it was too close to the rad... when you slammed on the brakes or took a hard trun the fins would rub the rad.
I don't think I can run the plastic fan w/ the clutch?? yes...no
i don't think your leaving that much HP on the table, i run the jag clutch with the 5 blade fan and i can tell you that clutch works but not great, its made for a smaller plastic fan that is used on the jags, it doesn't lock up tight and at idle my temp creeps up slowly, it will creep up to 215 on a hot day if you let it idle for 10 mins. It works but dont expect to feel a strong draw through the radiator. BTW im using a stock 22" radiator 3 cored, with shroud and properly sealed.
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Re: Jag fan clutch #
[Re: Mr.Yuck]
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08/21/13 08:00 PM
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2765 Hayden
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...amp;Search=true
Edit: I guess I'm confused now, you wanted the jag clutch number, but then if I'm reading it right, you only want the fan? No clutch?
No I want the Jag clutch and the Mopar fan.. but I have yet to see a place where you can just buy the fan.
I get just a fan from the u-pull, I swap a 7 blade fan on all my junk.
I have found the last 2-7 blade fans on 78-80 AMC hornets, bolts right to the stock 78 truck HAYDEN HD max cooling thermo clutch.
for a 5 blade any 5th ave or dippy would have the fan blade to fit the jag clutch or the mopar viscus clutch.
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Re: Jag fan clutch #
[Re: red 69 runner]
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08/25/13 11:27 AM
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Check the new issue of Mopar collectors guide,Tonys Parts has a reproduction of the originals part#2806070. www.tonysparts.com. 302-398-0821
He has a lot of good stuff, but most is pricey. Not sure i want to drop $200 on a clutch and fan, especially If I can get basically the same thing for $70-80. I guess if I was building a #'s car or show car. This thing just has to get me to the track, run and get me home.
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Re: Jag fan clutch #
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08/25/13 06:19 PM
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I have a Jaguar clutch I used on my 318 before determining it was too short. Only about 1500 miles on it. PM me if you're interested.
1967 Dodge Coronet Deluxe station wagon
1.03" T-bars, QA1 arms/rods, Cordoba/GM Metric/Volare brake & knuckle, XHDs, Hellwig rear sway, 318 Magnum w/ air gap, 727, 3.23s
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