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4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? #1478920 08/03/13 04:29 PM 08/03/13 04:29 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro... L Labratt OP Good Ol Randy B!
Labratt OP Good Ol Randy B! L Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...	I'm having my 727 freshened-up..after 11 yrs. of abuse in my street/strip '69' GTX. I run a Turbo-Action Cheetah valve body,and a bolt-in sprag. It was recommended that I install a Heavy Duty Strut..HD Retainer,and a 4.2 lever,to replace the 5.0 that's in it now. Any thoughts on this modification...good or bad? I trust the builder wholeheartedly...just want some opinions about the lever...and why,EITHER WAY! Thanks in advance! Randy B.

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: Labratt] #1478921 08/03/13 04:33 PM 08/03/13 04:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,785 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,785 Rio Linda, CA	The 4.2 is favored over the 5.0 and HD components are always a wise investment. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: Labratt] #1478922 08/03/13 08:59 PM 08/03/13 08:59 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,317 State of confusion	When I had Pro-trans freshen up my trans 12 years ago, it had the 5.0 lever and the screen filter and when I got it back in had the 4.2 lever and a stock filter............. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: Labratt] #1478923 08/03/13 10:18 PM 08/03/13 10:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	As I remember the old school thinking was that the extra leverage of the 5.0 was better. But as it turned out the extra leverage wasnt needed and the Slower reaction of the 5.0 was a hinderence. The 4.2 was a better comprimise of levarage and reaction. So the 4.2 is favored now. Randy, good to see you posting again,

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: Sport440] #1478924 08/04/13 03:27 AM 08/04/13 03:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,721 Eugene, OR F FuryBoy top fuel
FuryBoy top fuel F Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,721 Eugene, OR	Just found an AA 4.2 levee in my parts stash going to replace the 5.0 when I put the deep pan on in a few weeks.

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: FuryBoy] #1478925 08/04/13 02:46 PM 08/04/13 02:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,532 crisfield, maryland 21817 8 82ramIndy493 pro stock
82ramIndy493 pro stock 8 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,532 crisfield, maryland 21817	Quote: Just found an AA 4.2 levee in my parts stash going to replace the 5.0 when I put the deep pan on in a few weeks. You better allow extra time as you will have to pull the tranny and converter and valvebody to change that arm.

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: Sport440] #1478926 08/04/13 06:21 PM 08/04/13 06:21 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro... L Labratt OP Good Ol Randy B!
Labratt OP Good Ol Randy B! L Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...	Thanks,Mike! I've been staying pretty busy for a while now! Piecing the GTX back together,and working 3 days a week since January. I believe you stated a while back that when I get my heads cnc'd...my cam was really going to be HAPPY..and come alive!...we shall soon see! Should be ready for Norwalk,next month!

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: FuryBoy] #1478927 08/04/13 06:30 PM 08/04/13 06:30 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida Locomotion master
Locomotion master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,894 Florida	Quote: Just found an AA 4.2 levee in my parts stash going to replace the 5.0 when I put the deep pan on in a few weeks. Is your trans in or out of the car? The pin/shaft it rides on comes out from inside the bellhousing after unscrewing a plug. Even out of the car, I wish I had another hand to do it. Gotta manipulate things carefully to get it out & in.

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: 82ramIndy493] #1478928 08/05/13 09:53 AM 08/05/13 09:53 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 333 Forest Lake, Minnesota S superbeejim enthusiast
superbeejim enthusiast S Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 333 Forest Lake, Minnesota	You can change the lever in the car. Use a 12' 1/4 inch drive extension and a 1/4" flex socket and unscrew the plug. Some of the plugs have like a locktight sealant on them and you have to heat it up with a torch to get it out, and that should be done with the trans out of the car. I have broken the flex socket when the plug was tight and wasn't heated.

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: Labratt] #1478929 08/05/13 10:41 AM 08/05/13 10:41 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Randy.. put the 4.2 arm in... it gives you a better shift EDIT and all the things he suggested Last edited by MR_P_BODY; 08/05/13 10:43 AM.

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1478930 08/05/13 12:15 PM 08/05/13 12:15 PM
Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro... L Labratt OP Good Ol Randy B!
Labratt OP Good Ol Randy B! L Joined: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,325 Clinton Twp... north of Deetro...	Hi,Mike! Yes..picking up a 4.2 lever..HD strut..and billet aluminum spring retainer from Mancini's today. Also,the MRE Race rebuild kit..as suggested by Gerry Tomala. I just have to decide what rear band to purchase. What do you suggest? Thanks! Randy Last edited by Labratt; 08/06/13 09:06 AM.

Re: 4.2 KICKDOWN LEVER...AS OPPOSED TO THE 5.0? [Re: Labratt] #1478931 08/05/13 02:58 PM 08/05/13 02:58 PM
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