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904 not going into 3rd all the time..... #1475170
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Hello all.....the 904 trans in my dart shifts early from 1st to 2nd.....going into drive, it does sometimes sometimes it doesnt. Just out aan AFB Ihad laying around the other day.....could it be the kickdown cabke needs adjusting? Im sure it coukd use a new trans, but just trying to get it right...dont wanna buy a new one right now, as I plan on having the 340 built in a stout manner maybe the winter or spring.

If I shift manually from 1st to 2nd does fine, chiros the tires.....

thanks for any help in advance, this weekend is the first chsnce ive had to really work on it


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Re: 904 not going into 3rd all the time..... [Re: Hailtheleaf538] #1475171
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Yes shorten the kikcdown linkage a bit & see what happens. Keep track of the amount (turns) so you have a baseline & can set it back if need be & that'd be an easy solution if that is it. 2-3 shift valve may be hanging up (worst case) or maybe just need a band adjustment but I'm just guessing. I'd wait for Kunkel to come to as he's the man on this


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Re: 904 not going into 3rd all the time..... [Re: RapidRobert] #1475172
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904 in a Dart should be linkage. What are you running that has a cable? I have my trannies set to be in 3rd before 35 mph on a light cruise. Need to be in 3rd when driving around town at low speeds. It won't shift into 3rd when floored before about 80 mph unless I lift off the gas.


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Re: 904 not going into 3rd all the time..... [Re: bboogieart] #1475173
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904 in a Dart should be linkage. What are you running that has a cable? I have my trannies set to be in 3rd before 35 mph on a light cruise. Need to be in 3rd when driving around town at low speeds. It won't shift into 3rd when floored before about 80 mph unless I lift off the gas.




thanks for the responses everybody. Drove I thisbmorn and shifted great. The kickdown however. . Now it seems I got s vacuum leak csuse I cover the primaried and it dies.....

Ill see idf I cant try whst you guys are saying....thanks for all responses.


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Re: 904 not going into 3rd all the time..... [Re: Hailtheleaf538] #1475174
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if you cover the primaries and it does not die ...then you probably got a vacuum leak...

it should die if you cover the primaries..


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Re: 904 not going into 3rd all the time..... [Re: 70AARcuda] #1475175
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if you cover the primaries and it does not die ...then you probably got a vacuum leak...

it should die if you cover the primaries..




oh yah....was uh just seeingnif you guys were paying attention..

Just kidding... dont know where I got that from thanks for clearing me up......what youbsaid makes sense I was oit there and covered and said "yeah must be a vacuum leak, lol....

Thanks agsin brother, ill admit when I screw up, I know sone lack the humility to admir there isnt anything they dont know


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Re: 904 not going into 3rd all the time..... [Re: Hailtheleaf538] #1475176
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Is the kickdown cable or linkage? Does the AFB you're using have the correct Mopar throttle lever extension?


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Re: 904 not going into 3rd all the time..... [Re: John_Kunkel] #1475177
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Is the kickdown cable or linkage? Does the AFB you're using have the correct Mopar throttle lever extension?




It is a linkage, brother....I said cable by mistake, meant linkage in the previous post as well. It came off of a Mopar, was gonna put it on the 318 poly I my '65 coronet I had in the mid 90's. found a cool Offy aluminum intake for it.......

I took a pic of the side of the AFB, and the side of the E brock. they both look different where the throttle cable and kickdown are supposed to be.

Im telling ya man, this thing was RIGGED. 3 Allen head bolts and 1 flat blade screwdriver bolt to mount the carb to the EDDY intake.


Best way I can describe it is it looks like a half-assed Mcgyver tried to rig everything on it.


Will see if I can post the pics of the brackets so you can see how different they are, in the mornig. Thanks guys.


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Re: 904 not going into 3rd all the time..... [Re: Hailtheleaf538] #1475178
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The generic GM throttle levers found on most aftermarket carbs doesn't work with factory Mopar linkage that's why you need the Mopar throttle lever extension. The AFB and Edelbrock need the part number 1481 shown below.

The archives has pics of various linkage configurations for reference.

http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/auto/35.html







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