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Broke the trans again #1437795 05/16/13 11:53 PM 05/16/13 11:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis OP I Live Here
hemi-itis OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	Went for a ride Tuesday night and had the chance to try WOT on a nice 2 lane concrete highway.At the top of 2nd just when I clicked high gear I heard and felt a major BOOM under my feet .Clicked the key off and watched out the rearview mirror expecting see all kinda parts trailing me.Rolled to the side of the road and looked under the car to see everything in place and nothing leaking so I restarted the engine and went through the gears,but nothing happened After I got a ride to get my flatbed,towed it back to my shop,put it up on jackstands and pulled the pan to find NOTHING but clean fluid Pulled the unit out last night and called it a day.Went and pulled the trans apart today and found a broken retainer hub on the back of the input shaft. I see a new heavy duty maybe billit replacement in my future. Who should I get a new one from?TCS,Cope,,,,,or??? 7708684-5.16.13023.jpg (127 downloads) Last edited by hemi-itis; 05/16/13 11:54 PM. HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: hemi-itis] #1437796 05/16/13 11:55 PM 05/16/13 11:55 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis OP I Live Here
hemi-itis OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	7708688-5.16.13021.jpg (115 downloads) HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: hemi-itis] #1437797 05/17/13 12:58 AM 05/17/13 12:58 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	TCS sells some nice input shafts that are bigger diameter at the hub end. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: 72Swinger] #1437798 05/17/13 08:56 AM 05/17/13 08:56 AM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis OP I Live Here
hemi-itis OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	I broke the same part about about9 years ago when I tried srayin outta the hole.I shoulda bought the good part then HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: hemi-itis] #1437799 05/17/13 09:05 AM 05/17/13 09:05 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,011 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,011 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	ouch! The good news is yer makin some torque! Its great when that BOOM is only going to cost hundreds! Vs thousands! Last edited by gregsdart; 05/17/13 09:07 AM. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: hemi-itis] #1437800 05/17/13 02:46 PM 05/17/13 02:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,928 NC 440Jim I Live Here
440Jim I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,928 NC	I have seen them break when machined too much to fit a torrington bearing into them. On my 727, I only cleaned up the area for the torrington and took material off the front drum to make up for the axial distance change. But they do make a stronger aftermarket part too. 7709262-Rear_piston_retainer_cracks1a600.JPG (55 downloads)

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: 440Jim] #1437801 05/17/13 02:54 PM 05/17/13 02:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,454 Florida STAYcation dOoC The village idiot's idiot
dOoC The village idiot's idiot Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,454 Florida STAYcation	'itis ... it is that heavy shifter and all those gauges that is weighing-the-car-down and putting strain on the drivetrain ...

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: hemi-itis] #1437802 05/17/13 02:56 PM 05/17/13 02:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,230 Bend,OR USA C Cab_Burge I Win
Cab_Burge I Win C Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 43,230 Bend,OR USA	I'm really glad it broke the way it did and didn't hurt you Instead of exploding like a hand grenade It is thin where it failed Mr.Cab Racing and winning with Mopars since 1964. (Old F--t, Huh)

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: hemi-itis] #1437803 05/17/13 03:02 PM 05/17/13 03:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,855 Staten Island N.Y. Dap top fuel
Dap top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,855 Staten Island N.Y.	When I had mine apart the last time I found six cracks in mine. Time for an upgrade while you are there. PRH446 10.084 @ 135.21 mph N/A through chambered mufflers,3300lbs. Stock stroke wedge

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: hemi-itis] #1437804 05/17/13 05:21 PM 05/17/13 05:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,062 U.S.S.A. JohnRR I Win
JohnRR I Win Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 75,062 U.S.S.A.	You should probably replace anything that is available billet now and be done with it . I'm sure you know you are only going to keep finding the weakest links as you go . What parts are in it now , Drum ? Sprag ? Pump gears ? front Planet ? Output shaft ?

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: JohnRR] #1437805 05/17/13 08:41 PM 05/17/13 08:41 PM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 656 Kokomo, IN 540dust mopar
540dust mopar Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 656 Kokomo, IN	This came out of a customer's trans, suspected/witnessed that the brake was set while cruising in the pits, maybe a couple of times, so it could have experienced some "impacts". Odd thing is when it broke it was in 4th round eliminations running me. Anyway, they brake there. 7709579-727clutchhub.JPG (70 downloads)

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: 72Swinger] #1437806 05/17/13 10:11 PM 05/17/13 10:11 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis OP I Live Here
hemi-itis OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	I got their billet fron drum so I went back to them for the shaft & hub http://www.tcsproducts.com/products/product/17/ Will have new parts on Tuesday and will go to Tom's house and have him take care of it HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: gregsdart] #1437807 05/17/13 10:13 PM 05/17/13 10:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis OP I Live Here
hemi-itis OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	Quote: ouch! The good news is yer makin some torque! Its great when that BOOM is only going to cost hundreds! Vs thousands! LMOL. You got that right Greg HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: 540dust] #1437808 05/17/13 10:16 PM 05/17/13 10:16 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,751 Graham, WA P Polarapete top fuel
Polarapete top fuel P Joined: May 2003 Posts: 1,751 Graham, WA	I have never had enough power to do the damage I am seeing here. I have broken extension housings and blown the servos out of the case due to bad or badly installed snap rings. It seems to me you might be wise to invest in either a PG or a TH400 with an Ultrabell. There has to be a point where it just makes sense to change, but I don't know where that is. 1986 Dodge Ramcharger 440 2wd, Bracket Racer Under Construction 1998 Ram 2500 QuadCab, new daily driver. 2008 Honda Element 2014 Carry-On 7x14 Cargo Trailer

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: dOoC] #1437809 05/17/13 10:16 PM 05/17/13 10:16 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis OP I Live Here
hemi-itis OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	Quote: 'itis ... it is that heavy shifter and all those gauges that is weighing-the-car-down and putting strain on the drivetrain ... I have that lightweight plutonium/unobtainium shifter material that was scientificly balanced. I should be in the Keys for that race HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: JohnRR] #1437810 05/17/13 10:21 PM 05/17/13 10:21 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis OP I Live Here
hemi-itis OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	Quote: You should probably replace anything that is available billet now and be done with it . I'm sure you know you are only going to keep finding the weakest links as you go . What parts are in it now , Drum ? Sprag ? Pump gears ? front Planet ? Output shaft ? Just ordered the pump gears http://www.tcsproducts.com/products/product/478/ My builder is confident I won't break the stock output Have the drum,sprag,A&A planets but no brake.I'll stick to footbraken HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: Cab_Burge] #1437811 05/17/13 10:23 PM 05/17/13 10:23 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis OP I Live Here
hemi-itis OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	Quote: I'm really glad it broke the way it did and didn't hurt you Instead of exploding like a hand grenade It is thin where it failed I'm happy it happened in the street and not after I hauled everything and everybody to the track.Maybe next week HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: Polarapete] #1437812 05/17/13 10:25 PM 05/17/13 10:25 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis OP I Live Here
hemi-itis OP I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,588 Great Neck,LI,new york	Quote: I have never had enough power to do the damage I am seeing here. I have broken extension housings and blown the servos out of the case due to bad or badly installed snap rings. It seems to me you might be wise to invest in either a PG or a TH400 with an Ultrabell. There has to be a point where it just makes sense to change, but I don't know where that is. I'm way past that point.You'll never see a GM trans in my mopar,I won't give up my pushbutton shifter!! HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: hemi-itis] #1437813 05/17/13 10:29 PM 05/17/13 10:29 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Thats been cracked for a while... shouldnt blow that going into high(less torque at that point) plus it has some shine and smooth edges.... JMO

Re: Broke the trans again [Re: hemi-itis] #1437814 05/17/13 10:35 PM 05/17/13 10:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio	Maybe it's time for a change 7709716-Liberty-Gears-Cobra-Jet-cutaway.jpg (35 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

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