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leaf elimination on d100 truck #1430916
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i want to eliminate the leaf springs on a short bed d100. i plan on doing a 4 link with coil overs to replace them. any suggestions on which 4 link i should be looking at. the rear end is a d60. i plan on racing it but it will mostly be driven on the street.

Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: BBD150] #1430917
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what kind of racing?


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Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: amxautox] #1430918
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Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: BBD150] #1430919
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then it would be better to ask this in the drag race forum instead of the Handling Forum. it would be a little bit different set up.


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Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: amxautox] #1430920
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for a truck that will see limited drag action I would go with a ladder bar set up. Ladders bars are much easier to install plus set up is easier and theu are cheaper. You wont need the infinite adjustment of a 4 link setup. However if you see yourself getting more serious with drag racing then the 4 link might be a better option..


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Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: HOTMOPR] #1430921
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The step ups on the frame won't allow for the stock bed floor if you do it right.
You could weld brackets to the stock rails maybe , but you want that stuff to be rock solid and you'd be surprised at how much they will twist.
There is a fellow from southern Mn. who posts here and I can't swear to his handle , but it is D-100 ish in nature.......he has a well done Hemi in his and has probably had every problem you will face.

Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: tubtar] #1430922
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I like the ladder bar approach myself , but contact this guy
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...rue#Post7323481

Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: tubtar] #1430923
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4-links are a real pain, my truck has Ladder bars on it...Hooks every time.

http://s427.photobucket.com/user/cudahal...457684573122584


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

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'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: tubtar] #1430924
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The step ups on the frame won't allow for the stock bed floor if you do it right.
You could weld brackets to the stock rails maybe , but you want that stuff to be rock solid and you'd be surprised at how much they will twist.
There is a fellow from southern Mn. who posts here and I can't swear to his handle , but it is D-100 ish in nature.......he has a well done Hemi in his and has probably had every problem you will face.




I don't know if you're refering to me, I live about 100 miles south of the northern border with Canada. I built a 4-link for my D-100 and like it, much nicer ride on the street. I'm still sorting a few things out but I think it's getting close. My main problem has been dealing with weak links, I first built it when I was making 650hp. I'm now at 850+, trying to build everything strong enough but at the same time keep the weight down to a minumum has been a challenge. Dave

Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: quickd100] #1430925
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keep the weight down to a minumum has been a challenge. Dave




You built a TRUCK into a drag car! I think your out in left field on the weight thing.....

Have you weighed the hood on yours yet? I think mine is heavier than the rest of my cab and I know it weighs more than the bed on mine.

Either way, back on topic, ladder bars are much easier to install and setup, and they hook, and drive very well on the street...And you should need a lot of mods to the chassis if you can find short enough coil overs.

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'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: quickd100] #1430926
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Yeah I was........sorry. I could have sworn Nielsville was down Winona / Caledonia way.
I seem to remember a thread where you were twisting the frame rails and how you addressed it.

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Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: BBD150] #1430927
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i want to eliminate the leaf springs on a short bed d100. i plan on doing a 4 link with coil overs to replace them. any suggestions on which 4 link i should be looking at. the rear end is a d60. i plan on racing it but it will mostly be driven on the street.




I would want to see what the distance is from the back
of the cab to the center line of the axle... that would
tell me alot and what I would use and do... also what
the balance point is on the truck... if you knew a
couple of these numbers its easier to figure out...
I buy the S&W brackets and make my own bars for almost
every 4-link I install

Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1430928
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i want to eliminate the leaf springs on a short bed d100. i plan on doing a 4 link with coil overs to replace them. any suggestions on which 4 link i should be looking at. the rear end is a d60. i plan on racing it but it will mostly be driven on the street.




I would want to see what the distance is from the back
of the cab to the center line of the axle... that would
tell me alot and what I would use and do... also what
the balance point is on the truck... if you knew a
couple of these numbers its easier to figure out...
I buy the S&W brackets and make my own bars for almost
every 4-link I install





They are very front heavy, and also, I believe he would need to put the frame up thru the bed. That is somthing I was able to avoid on mine....





'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: Dragula] #1430929
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I am building a Ramcharger for bracket racing and am keeping it simple. I am using the original leafs with clamps on the front segment, spooled Dana 60 mounted above the springs. At the moment I have front mounts at the rear with longer shackles, but I am going to use rollers mounted to a square tube crossmember that will also serve as the anchor point for the rear tubes of the roll cage. Finally, I will be using a homemade copy of the "CalTrac" system.


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I am building a Ramcharger for bracket racing and am keeping it simple. I am using the original leafs with clamps on the front segment, spooled Dana 60 mounted above the springs. At the moment I have front mounts at the rear with longer shackles, but I am going to use rollers mounted to a square tube crossmember that will also serve as the anchor point for the rear tubes of the roll cage. Finally, I will be using a homemade copy of the "CalTrac" system.




Good luck with the build i been wanting to do this myself


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Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: Polarapete] #1430931
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I am building a Ramcharger for bracket racing and am keeping it simple. I am using the original leafs with clamps on the front segment, spooled Dana 60 mounted above the springs. At the moment I have front mounts at the rear with longer shackles, but I am going to use rollers mounted to a square tube crossmember that will also serve as the anchor point for the rear tubes of the roll cage. Finally, I will be using a homemade copy of the "CalTrac" system.





Finally....I found a man crazier than me. My factory leaf springs worked wonderful until I went to a 528 Hemi. I tryed the caltracks and shocks and just couldn't get them to work. I called Calvert racing hoping they could make up a set of leaf springs for me. They said they couldn't help me so I fabbed up a 4-link. I bought a copy of Billy Shoppes, 'Just Suspensions' it was a tremendous help. Dave

Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: quickd100] #1430932
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Mine has a 4 bar

Its called the "fatbar" system

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www.nolimit.net

They ( don't ) make them for Dodge

http://www.nolimitparts.com/prodinfo.asp?number=FTBR-BC



It worked perfect, it was quite the discussion with the tech guys there


I love it

Re: leaf elimination on d100 truck [Re: quickd100] #1430933
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quickd100: do you have any pics of the 4 link under your truck?

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quickd100: do you have any pics of the 4 link under your truck?




Sorry, I don't have anything current and the shop is plugged with equipment right now and I can't get remotely close to the hoist to get any pics. Dave







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