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AMD 1968 Charger rear quarterpanels fitment? #1428521
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I was in a shop recently to view a very nice 1968 Charger that it being "upgraded" to Hemi R/T status. The owner was quite proud of his Charger, which he has had for over thirty years.
The car recently underwent a very thorough panel replacement, with all new metal from AMD.
His only complaint was that his bodyman obviously had difficulty installing the new rear quarters. And unfortunately, didn't mock up the fitment of the quarter panel "eyebrows" or "boomerangs" at the end of the quarters until after the car was already painted. And then, surprisingly, it was found that the contour of the top body line didn't match the eyebrows at all. Not to mention the chrome surrounding the tail lights didn't fit any more. This is the first I've seen this. I didn't take pictures, but I'm including this diagram for illustration. Has anybody else encountered this same problem?

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Re: AMD 1968 Charger rear quarterpanels fitment? [Re: magnumcharger] #1428522
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Thats not the only place they have issues.

I hope he did a test fit for the rear window lower outside corners.

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the 69 coronet quarters i bought from AMD fit soo good to their wheelhouse,
i bought a original pair of quarters for more money for the next car!
i consider AMD as parts of last resort...

Re: AMD 1968 Charger rear quarterpanels fitment? [Re: magnumcharger] #1428524
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If the guy installing the 1/4's didn't fit the 1/4 extensions, then that's his fault and nobody elses. I installed new AMD 1/4's on a 69 Charger and found they fit very nice.
Even a brand new or NOS panel can be installed wrong by someone who isn't payng attention.
You don't just snap new parts in place. It's not Lego.

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I just got done doing both quarters on a Daytona and had just the "normal" amount of massaging that usually occurs with most aftermarket parts. The extensions fit decently only requiring a little adjustment on the sides. No problems as you have illustrated. The only real PITA with the Charger AMD stuff were the valance corners. I had to work them pretty hard. I have a 69 Coronet coming in soon and will see how the AMD stuff is there as he has one NOS quarter for it. Will be a real good test.


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1967 Charger Black L code
1967 Coronet R/T Convert Green 440 auto bought from original owner
1968 Charger R/T Bronze 440 4 spd console AM/FM
1969 Super Bee WM21H B5 A40 D21 N96
1969 Barracuda Formula S 340 Convert pilot car
1969 Hemi Road Runner RM23J D32 Omaha orange 4.10 Dana N96 N85
1970 Super Bee WM23N FE5 V1X 3.91 axle package, N96
1970 Road Runner RM21N B3 V1X D13
1971 MG Midget
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Re: AMD 1968 Charger rear quarterpanels fitment? [Re: sixpackbee] #1428526
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did one on a 68 2 years ago and had no problems.

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Same here, had no issues where the OP spoke of. I thought it was a good repro, some issues around lower back window...

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I have the same exact issue with the drivers qtr to endcap, but, the pass side lines up very close to the endcap. My drivers' qtr corner shape is off exactly the same way your drawing is.

I will modify and reshape it to fit the endcap, since that is a factory piece.

That sucks that the bodyman missed that before it was painted.

Good luck.


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the body man dropped the ball...........everything that is not mocked up and massaged for fit will bite you in the ass after paint.........its the attention to detail PRIOR TO PAINT that separates the pros from the smoes..........

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the body man dropped the ball...........everything that is not mocked up and massaged for fit will bite you in the ass after paint.........its the attention to detail PRIOR TO PAINT that separates the pros from the smoes..........








EXACTLY.....couldn't agree more...

I Have NOS quarters on my 70 Charger, I had issues with the end caps, but a proper fitting/adjustments, time towards detail, verify all trim and components, glass, etc, etc are fitted before paint is the only way to go regardless of the components used, new/repro/NOS/used...doesn't matter, you drop the ball, or assume everything is "Hunky Dory", you'll be sorry later...


FWIW, I've hung several sets of AMD Charger and RoadRunner full qtrs,...no different than NOS or original used, In fact I prefer the AMD qtrs, metal is a lot thicker, .040 vs the factory .030

Mike

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Same issue on my 69 AMD quarters. Easy to fix.
Sorry to hear about the body man dropping the ball.

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FWIW, I have a 70 Coronet one side has the original quarter the other
was replaced with an NOS quarter (a long time ago)... In your picture,
if you were to draw your curved line in your picture about half as
far from the pointed edge as you do now...

You would have what mine looks like on both sides..

The "curved" corner on the extension does not mate perfectly with
the pointed corner on the factory quarter panel..
Granted, mine are not as exagerated as yours....
But they are not perfect...
Thats the way they were made... I can't comment on the Chargers...

Best of luck to you...

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I have the same exact issue with the drivers qtr to endcap, but, the pass side lines up very close to the endcap. My drivers' qtr corner shape is off exactly the same way your drawing is.

I will modify and reshape it to fit the endcap, since that is a factory piece.

That sucks that the bodyman missed that before it was painted.

Good luck.




Can you please post a picture of your quarter/endcap together BEFORE you fix it?

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Welding a panel on without fitting it's related parts is just foolish. Who's to say the 1/4 didn't have shipping damage? That flange where it attaches can be easily bent. Or maybe the 1/4 extension is bent. I've seen that quite often. It doesn't matter if the panel is new, used or reproduction, they still need to be adjusted for the best fit.
Hope the body guy had the door and trunklid on before he welded the 1/4 on.....

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,...no different than NOS or original used, In fact I prefer the AMD qtrs

Mike




not for a 69 coronet
the sharpness of the lines on the amd panel is WRONG to
the original quarter!
the trunk gutter lip is off
i know for FACT because i compared the 2 side by side!
so much
i'm half tempted to drill off the AMD garbage
thats already installed!
so put down your AMD trumpet!

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I have the same exact issue with the drivers qtr to endcap, but, the pass side lines up very close to the endcap. My drivers' qtr corner shape is off exactly the same way your drawing is.

I will modify and reshape it to fit the endcap, since that is a factory piece.

That sucks that the bodyman missed that before it was painted.

Good luck.




Can you please post a picture of your quarter/endcap together BEFORE you fix it?




Absolutely...I will get one on here in the next day or 2.


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the body man dropped the ball...........everything that is not mocked up and massaged for fit will bite you in the ass after paint.........its the attention to detail PRIOR TO PAINT that separates the pros from the smoes..........








EXACTLY.....couldn't agree more...

I Have NOS quarters on my 70 Charger, I had issues with the end caps, but a proper fitting/adjustments, time towards detail, verify all trim and components, glass, etc, etc are fitted before paint is the only way to go regardless of the components used, new/repro/NOS/used...doesn't matter, you drop the ball, or assume everything is "Hunky Dory", you'll be sorry later...


FWIW, I've hung several sets of AMD Charger and RoadRunner full qtrs,...no different than NOS or original used, In fact I prefer the AMD qtrs, metal is a lot thicker, .040 vs the factory .030

Mike




It may be thicker, but it sure bends a LOT easier...

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the 69 coronet quarters i bought from AMD fit soo good to their wheelhouse,
i bought a original pair of quarters for more money for the next car!
i consider AMD as parts of last resort...




The guy doing the work should be able to take care of small problems, or he shouldn't be doing the work! I watched a guy use one of the old standard "Canadian hand formed" quarter patch panels back about 1988, it turned out great. But he was good, and he had probably 4 times the hours into doing it vs. replacing with a full quarter. I put a set of '70 Coronet quarter skins on back in the 90's, they were crap but they did work.


NOS or good used sheetmetal is great if you can find it (and afford it), but I've seen dozens of cars done with AMD metal that looks as good as original when it's done. Maybe down there in Snookiland you're tripping over good sheetmetal, but it ain't like that around here. You've got a bad opnion of AMD, that's your right. But AMD or Goodmark are the only options for a lot of guys. And they're a lot better than what used to be available

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the 69 coronet quarters i bought from AMD fit soo good to their wheelhouse,
i bought a original pair of quarters for more money for the next car!
i consider AMD as parts of last resort...




The guy doing the work should be able to take care of small problems, or he shouldn't be doing the work! I watched a guy use one of the old standard "Canadian hand formed" quarter patch panels back about 1988, it turned out great. But he was good, and he had probably 4 times the hours into doing it vs. replacing with a full quarter. I put a set of '70 Coronet quarter skins on back in the 90's, they were crap but they did work.


NOS or good used sheetmetal is great if you can find it (and afford it), but I've seen dozens of cars done with AMD metal that looks as good as original when it's done. Maybe down there in Snookiland you're tripping over good sheetmetal, but it ain't like that around here. You've got a bad opnion of AMD, that's your right. But AMD or Goodmark are the only options for a lot of guys. And they're a lot better than what used to be available




you just picked on the wrong guy here..

the guy doing the work was me
and it was not a "small issue"
when i called the amd install center
they told me they never had any issuse with thier wheelhouses
more the one time..
they would not let me return them at all.
fast foward
i discovered that the part was retooled..
busted...
then i pushed harder and found out
the molds were made made off a 4 dr wheelhouse
so they never had a prayer of fitting..
when confronted
AMD knew i caught them COLD with thier pants down and
it took alot to get them to make good.

AMD sells you junk at top dollar and will lie about it
when you have a problem...
that is my main issue with them.
if they didn't lie and jerk me around
like i'm a idiot
i might feel different.

btw
it took me splicing 4 AMD wheelhouses together to make 2
that would fit properly..
i do not put together a mudmobile!..

i buy as much orig metal that i can find now,
for more money then AMD is.
just spent a fortune on 2 orig cut off quarters from texas
the time i save installing,more then makes up for the cost
i can also pick out your AMD mobile
without much effort on my part!


all i will say is don't ASSUME
that all of thier junk fits!

btw my siggy is a quote from
another member here with AMD issuses
so i know i'm not alone
telling people AMD is as good as orig or nos
is a joke

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I ain't picking on anyone, and I've read all about your AMD issues. Yeah, they effed up on that part, but they're the first one to do that? Come on! I know of more than one company that's done that.

You sound like you know what you're doing, but dang near ever post that deals with AMD has you chiming in and complaining about them- OK, why not post your fixes instead of just whining? YOu talked about the 69 Coronet quarters, I know of two 68-69 Coronets in yards near me but you're not going to salvage any sheetmetal from them. Nothing from the door handles down, anyway! My buddy used AMD's, he had a good shop do it and it turned out great.
My curent project is a 69 Charger. I can hunt around and maybe pay $2K (plus shipping) each for NOS ones that have been banging around for 40+ years or I can buy a pair of AMD- that's what I'm going to do. No one will be able to tell when I'm finished, I don't have the money to buy original and have it shipped here. A couple extra hours of work and another car that would have just sat and rotted will be on the road for less than half the total price of NOS or used original.

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