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1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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Please post some pictures of correct 14x6 steel wheels for a 1971 Road Runner. Also pictures of the correct trim ring that came on these wheels.I know just a few of the '71 Road Runners came with trim rings so thanks in advance for any help yawl can give me.
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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Cool, I was going to post this. I just got some 14 x 6 Ralleys I'm putting into my Polyglas F 60 14's !!! Thanks Moparts !!  Sweet.. I think they look like this !!
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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The guy is looking for STEEL wheel pictures NOT RALLYE wheels.
Man, I've been sick all day, just get out of bed for some Moparts, and I find out I can't read.. Sorry, please disregard those pics. 
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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Thamks for the part # on the trim rings.  I will go to the dealer Monday and check.
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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Good luck...I've been trying to piece together a set of 14x6s for a couple years now....not easy to find!
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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I think this is what it would look like, however I'm not sure since there is no part # at the valve stem on this wheel. Anyone know what this 14x6 wheel is for? early 70 maybe? 
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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my 70 Bee 6 pack was coded 17 on the broadcast sheet for a 14x6 steel wheel #3420978 which was also available for 1971. The original spare:
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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10/29/08 02:46 AM
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I have been looking for a set of these since I bought my car in 2000. I have the original dog dishes but not the wheels. Someone out there, make this car original. I have the 71 rally wheels to trade... Kim
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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I have been looking for a set of these since I bought my car in 2000. I have the original dog dishes but not the wheels. Someone out there, make this car original. I have the 71 rally wheels to trade... Kim
Do you have the broadcast sheet for your car? Does it list 14x6? I was always under the assumption that Hemi cars received 15x7 steel wheels standard and that 440 & 440+6 cars received the 14x6. Interesting.........
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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I didn't ask about trim rings. I have gone round and round about these rims, correct part number, phantom part number, should be part number, could be part number, and on and on. When I got the car I talked with Frank Balderson (sp), a great guy by the way, and he helped with the broadcast sheet. He also explained how, on May 1, Mopar changed from body color wheels to black and that was why mine (5/3/71) had black. I never asked the original owner but I bet that is why he switched to ralleys. Thanks, everyone, for the help. Kim
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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I didn't ask about trim rings. I have gone round and round about these rims, correct part number, phantom part number, should be part number, could be part number, and on and on. When I got the car I talked with Frank Balderson (sp), a great guy by the way, and he helped with the broadcast sheet. He also explained how, on May 1, Mopar changed from body color wheels to black and that was why mine (5/3/71) had black. I never asked the original owner buy I bet that is why he switched to ralleys. Thanks, everyone, for the help. Kim
Sorry, I confused your question with someone else. Your broadcast clearly states the 2944329 (29) wheel which, according to GG, is correct for either B or E body in 71, while in the same book it states that 2944327 (27) is for b body only. Eric (Butterscotch71) and I have discussed this and I think either one is acceptable. On a side note, these wheels were also found on later year cars as well. Although they may have different part numbers on them, they are physically the same (14x6 JJ). Here is a picture that shows a 2944329 on the left ('71 b or e) and a 3580060 on the right ('72-'74 b body).
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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Sorry, I confused your question with someone else. Your broadcast clearly states the 2944329 (29) wheel which, according to GG, is correct for either B or E body in 71, while in the same book it states that 2944327 (27) is for b body only. Eric (Butterscotch71) and I have discussed this and I think either one is acceptable. On a side note, these wheels were also found on later year cars as well. Although they may have different part numbers on them, they are physically the same (14x6 JJ). Here is a picture that shows a 2944329 on the left ('71 b or e) and a 3580060 on the right ('72-'74 b body).
The car is almost totally original -- heck, the original owner even game me the original light bulbs that came with it. I owe it to the car to get the closest to correct wheels that I can. And to top it off, I am still unsure about the exact part number I am looking for. So it goes, Kim.
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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Kim, I'm not sure why you are confused about your wheels. If your broadcast sheet lists code 29 (which is the code for part number 2944329) then wouldn't that be the correct wheel?
I looked for the email but can't find it. Suffice to say that I have gone around this issue in depth twice. If I remember correctly, it was left with the 2944329 not being a real part number (I think it was called phantom but I could be wrong) and there were not any actual wheels that had that number. Rather the real number was something else and on and on and on. I think the person was here who told me this. But if you have a wheel with that number, then that is great and solves the riddle. So, I will be looking for a good set of 2944329s.
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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The guy who mentioned the 29 number as "phantom" was Bill Rolik here on this board. Ryan, if you have a 29 rim could you please post a good picture of it, ie, the part number and valve stem hole area? If not, then can we assume that the only 14x6.0 wheels are 27's, ones with out part numbers(made by Kelsey Hayes) and ones with part number 2944 242, used as spares in the trunks of cars with 6.0 rims on them. Have I missed anything?
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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The SERVICE part number (in the parts catalog, and for sale over the counter) for the 14 X 6 wheels is 3420978. This covers B-Body and E-Body applications. I have on hand right now more than a dozen NOS 3420978 wheels, NONE OF WHICH are stamped 2944329 (engineering number). In fact, they have no numbers. I did have two NOS 3420978 (with 2944327 engineering number) B-Body wheels last year, which were sold to Eric Manuel (I know others who have had ORIGINAL, PRODUCTION 327's on hand). The ORIGINAL WHEELS on my 71 340 Cuda convertible, which theoretically should have 2944329 (engineering number)stamped on them, are BLANK. Based on the fact I have never seen or even heard of a 329 wheel in existence anywhere, it still falls into the "phantom" category.
Bill Rolik
P.S. Ryan, I will second Dwight's request: If you say you have a 329 wheel, let's see it!
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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Bill: I would add that all the blank 14x6.0's are all made by Kelsey Hayes and are stamped in a small type of font. The 327 wheels(I have several) are made by some other wheel company and have a much larger font to the numbers stamped on either side of the valve stem. I think(I will have to check tonight) that the Kelsey Hayes wheels have a 6.0 stamped to the right of the valve stem after the day code stamping. The 327 rims have no 6.0 but have a pentastar stamped instead. Other than that the rims are identical. Also, I would state this, that the 327 rim was avaiable as far back as Aug of 1969(I have one) and at that time, like all other wheels, had NO PART NUMBER stamped above the valve stem. Because of this, I would say that this rim was obviously NOT a 71 B Body rim only. It was used for 70 production cars as well. Bill, can you comment on the 2944 242 spare tire 6.0 rim?
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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The guy who mentioned the 29 number as "phantom" was Bill Rolik here on this board. Ryan, if you have a 29 rim could you please post a good picture of it, ie, the part number and valve stem hole area? If not, then can we assume that the only 14x6.0 wheels are 27's, ones with out part numbers(made by Kelsey Hayes) and ones with part number 2944 242, used as spares in the trunks of cars with 6.0 rims on them. Have I missed anything?
I will gladly take better pictures of the wheels I have. Specifically the purple one (which I bought on eBay several years ago as a single wheel). The pics will have to wait until after the weekend of Nov. 8 though since they are in storage at my dad's house. Thanks for all of the great input on these wheels. It's a very perplexing question. My next question is why would they code a broadcast sheet with a code which is supposedly the last two digits of a part number when in fact it is only an engineering number as opposed to the actual part number??
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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The SERVICE part number (in the parts catalog, and for sale over the counter) for the 14 X 6 wheels is 3420978. This covers B-Body and E-Body applications. I have on hand right now more than a dozen NOS 3420978 wheels, NONE OF WHICH are stamped 2944329 (engineering number). In fact, they have no numbers. I did have two NOS 3420978 (with 2944327 engineering number) B-Body wheels last year, which were sold to Eric Manuel (I know others who have had ORIGINAL, PRODUCTION 327's on hand). The ORIGINAL WHEELS on my 71 340 Cuda convertible, which theoretically should have 2944329 (engineering number)stamped on them, are BLANK. Based on the fact I have never seen or even heard of a 329 wheel in existence anywhere, it still falls into the "phantom" category.
Bill Rolik
P.S. Ryan, I will second Dwight's request: If you say you have a 329 wheel, let's see it!
Actually you sold me the NOS 27 wheels last year.
Still trying to piece together a complete set of good wheels for my 71 runner
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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Ryan,
When you are able to take photos of the numbers on the "329" wheel, you may also want to compare both the 329 and 327 wheels for the following:
Offset
Wheel Thickness (i.e., gauge of steel)
Vendor Markings
Wheel Style (JJ vs. whatever)
There has to be SOME reason (even with Chrysler's sometimes bizarre thinking) as to why there are multiple wheels for what should be similar applications.
Bill Rolik
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Ryan, Thanks for the reply. I was anticipating the welcoming of the first known example of a 329 wheel to surface "in person", but I guess that will just have to wait! Your broadcast sheet isn't the greatest, but it is much better than not having one at all! Bill Rolik
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ?
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Ryan: If you don't mind, can you tell us what the date codes are on the two 327 wheels that you have?? There are obviously some of us on this board(me included) that are looking to cobble together a matched set or at least a set that is close to matching. Maybe with everyones input we can do some horse trading and make a few people happy! I have two that are dated Aug 6, 1970, one dated Feb 9, 1970, one dated Feb. 10, 1970, one dated Aug. 6, 1969 and one dated July 8, 1969. Any one else??
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I Googled one of these wheel part #'s & look what I found! Posting to see if this old thread will resurrect itself! How's this for a bump?
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I have this one i will sell, never used a take off from a 70 Challenger R/T. Not the number I want... plus I won't continue to post in this thread further as it's not the appropriate place. Thanks.
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Re: 1971 b body 14x6 wheels ? 2944327
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Is there confirmation that the 2944327 wheels are used both in 70-71? If so, both B & E body?
Based on photos of purple wheel in this thread it seems clear they were available in 70 MY as well. I assume Galen's white book is incorrect stating as 71 B body only.
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Date code on the wheel above is 11 3 1969, so it was made during the 1970 model year.
Body color wheels were used for the first part of the '71 model year as well for hubcap equipped cars. Thanks Barry! I resurrected this old thread today when I found it on google. I am trying to find out if 2944327 wheels are "confirmed" as being used on 70 model year vehicles. I have seen a few date code examples that certainly correlate to 70 MY production vehicles. Wondering if there are build sheet photos to confirm same as what is shown for 71 MY in this thread. As noted above, I am guessing the GG "Little White Book" is in error by listing as 71 B only.
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I have examples dated as early as July of 1969(no part number on the super early ones, no part number on any super early Motor wheel rims, for that matter). Motor wheel made 14x5.0, 14x5.5 and 14x6.0 steel wheels all through the 1970 and 1971 model years, and also at least into 1972. I have many examples with part number and date codes. If they weren't used on B and E body cars, you tell me what they came on??!! A Body, nope, C Body, nope. Y body, nope.
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Is there confirmation that the 2944327 wheels are used both in 70-71? If so, both B & E body?
Based on photos of purple wheel in this thread it seems clear they were available in 70 MY as well. I assume Galen's white book is incorrect stating as 71 B body only. I have a complete set of 5 dated 3/70 that were original to a 70 RT. I believe the "white book" to be incorrect. Do you have a early version of the book, perhaps this was corrected?
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I have a ‘70 Bee with three of the original 327 wheels still present. They are all dated 11/4/69 and still wear the factory applied FC7 paint.
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I have a ‘70 Bee with three of the original 327 wheels still present. They are all dated 11/4/69 and still wear the factory applied FC7 paint. I have 1 wheel 327 with original FC7 paint, dated 9/22/69. Wish it was same date as your 3.
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Regardless, both your broadcast and mine list 29 as the correct wheel. Your production date is May '71, mine is Dec. '70. The only difference is that yours were painted black and mine body color.
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after all, you have to PAY for his information. 
