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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money?
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I've been talking with Jerry about it so I guess we'll see what happens. On another note is Pro-Gram Engineering still in business? The website is useless and emails are returned as undeliverable. 
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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money?
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Ok, thanks.
I've been talking with Jerry at SD Concepts about making a modified BCR cap that is flat all the way across the cap to use with a Hughes girdle to provide a full contact across the width of the cap without shims. Similiar to the caps MRL was making. Anyone else interested in a set?
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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money?
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OK, Jerry just gave me pricing for the caps, $450 a set. If he can run at least 5 sets the price drops to $350 per set. 360 or 340 main size. Anyone else want a set?
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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money?
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i'd be interested at 350 a set. i'm expecting 650-700hp after my next rebuild on my 71 360. my block is much like yours with block fill. would the 350 be just for the caps or are you getting the girdle also?
Just the caps, mains 1 through 4. The girdle is $279 from Hughes.
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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money?
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ok. do the girdles really hold everything in place? some believe with a girdle,if one main moves the rest will move with it because their all tied together. I have a machinest in Detroit that think their the best,if ya know what I meen. they don't believe in girdles,say girdles are for little old ladies. i'm using studs right now and thinking i'll just add the aluminum caps without girdle,unless someone can convince me girdles work on small blocks.
Dave, MRL has had an engine making 700 HP running since 2009 with a similiar cap and girdle setup. He says it's still going strong. The 4140 material is steel not aluminum. I would believe that with the girdle, since they are all tied together the others would help stop movement of the main and not cause the others to move with it.
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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money?
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don't get me wrong here. not sayin they don't work. just sayin I have a guy that builds hundreds of performance motors telling me girdles don't work in small blocks. does anyone have proof that they do work? i'd like to be convinced they do help.
Unless you built an engine without a girdle and had cap walk then built it again with a girdle and it didn't how could you prove they did or didn't work? I certainly don't believe they would hurt but as proof? I don't know. You could use these caps with or without a girdle though.
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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money?
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I LOVE it when someone says they have had one in an engine since 2009. A good Friend of mine has the same 454 big block, alcohol injected Chevy in his dragster since 1995. It never leaves the garage but its the same engine. 
Who knows? I'm just looking to see if anyone else would be interested in a set. I'm not reselling them, this is the price straight from SD Concepts whom you would order from. I'm going to do it anyway whether or not anyone else is interested. This engine came with a girdle on it already so it won't cost me anymore money.
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2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money?
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i'm interested for $350.
OK, I have a total of 3 guys so far.
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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money?
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03/15/13 01:54 PM
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sounds good 700hp and 8000rpm. the [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] build a good motor. just sold a 08 gsxr 750,ran flawlessly. very impressed with their motors. redlined at 14,500rpm. best rated my 408 at 680hp@7500 with just studs and stock caps and block fill as the max on block. aluminum main caps will be alittle insurance.
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