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Re: Anyone run a auto?
[Re: joshking440]
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03/11/13 12:09 PM
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Do these clubs frown on traction control
No.
All those new SRT8 cars live by it. But I think that active? traction control might more involved that what you plan on running. I know there's some new guys that come out with us that are sort of re-learning thier cars with the traction control turned off.
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Re: Anyone run a auto?
[Re: jcc]
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03/11/13 12:21 PM
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On a fast road course with not a lot of slow tight parts and with that motor, not as big a deal as with other motors. Not 100% optimal, but it's not going to blow up and explode with an automatic.
You mentioned "not a lot of slow tight turns" seems like an auto would be OK with that, or is your concern braking?
A little, but also the avoiding the many up and down shifts. It's a bigger deal with something say a 4 cly Neon that would needs to be in the revs.
What is your feelings on this MS68EFI?
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Re: Anyone run a auto?
[Re: autoxcuda]
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03/11/13 01:15 PM
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Viol8r
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On a fast road course with not a lot of slow tight parts and with that motor, not as big a deal as with other motors. Not 100% optimal, but it's not going to blow up and explode with an automatic.
You mentioned "not a lot of slow tight turns" seems like an auto would be OK with that, or is your concern braking?
A little, but also the avoiding the many up and down shifts. It's a bigger deal with something say a 4 cly Neon that would needs to be in the revs.
What is your feelings on this MS68EFI?
I agree completely. So many factors go into this decision. I personally have had no issues with this set-up. We make 600 ft.lbs of torque, so my RPM range is lower and allows for minimal issues between shifts. There will always be a certain amount of driver skill needed to really take a car hard into a corner, manual or auto. I really use my Gear Vendors to my advantage on road course, even under braking. I suggest running your brake bias contols into the cockpit area, it helps on longer runs with a big car.
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Re: Anyone run a auto?
[Re: Viol8r]
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03/11/13 02:32 PM
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... I really use my Gear Vendors to my advantage on road course, even under braking. I suggest running your brake bias contols into the cockpit area, it helps on longer runs with a big car.
So do you gear split on upshifts and downshifts?
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Re: Anyone run a auto?
[Re: autoxcuda]
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03/11/13 02:56 PM
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... I really use my Gear Vendors to my advantage on road course, even under braking. I suggest running your brake bias contols into the cockpit area, it helps on longer runs with a big car.
So do you gear split on upshifts and downshifts?
Yes, as much as possible. It does take some getting used to but if you are on a part of the course where 2nd gear is optimun you are basically just turning the unit off and on.
I run a button on my Cheetah shifter, right in my thumb position. It's like a Sunday drive!
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Re: Anyone run a auto?
[Re: Billy B Bad]
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03/11/13 11:10 PM
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During a med-speed typical pylon lot autocross, you want to avoid shifting so you won't disrupt the driving and transition of the car. On a hi-speed road course you have more time in the straights (although some may still be curved straights) to aford the shifting. A manual trans will allow more power to be used, whereas the automatic does take some away. Regardless which type of course you're on (med-speed r hi-speed), and which type of trans you have, you want to avoid disrupting the flow and steadiness of the car if/when ever shifted... try to concentrate on being smooth. My 727 has been bullet proof and it shifts fully automatic or manual up/down... I can trail brake more easily with an automatic, but manuals take more skill to master their advantages. Winners can be either trans (auto or manual)... the nut behind the wheel makes the final decision on how well the car finishes.
Mopar Mitch
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Re: Anyone run a auto?
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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03/11/13 11:23 PM
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So is a well set-up auto smooth enough? Seems like a quick change rear end is the real answer for different tracks. And to the OP, I'd put a deposit on the passon 5 spd and call it a day, run anything in the meantime to sort out car and driver first. 
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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