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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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I had mine ceramic coated at a place in Belmont. I forgot the name but they cost me $240. If you want I can try to find they name and give them a call for you. 7 years later they still look great.
Hey Ricky that is ACC Plus shop and i would have gone there but the shop i used was only a couple of blocks away so the convience factory was what i choose (Sandersons).
So what i came up with after talking to the gal there was when i pull they engine to do the rebuild (hopefully at the end of the year) they will recoat them at no charge. Guess that's about the best i could expect them to offer anyway.
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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Call Brad at Ram Proline in Las Vegas. Here's the link http://www.ramproline.com/ He'll answer any questions you may have. Brad's coated a few systems for my brother & myself. Super quality & great price.
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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'Ceramic coating warranty voided in the event of an out-of-tune carburetor'...
Wow...
I worked at Jet-Hot. For a while & that's the sign of poor prep
They were not wiped down before spray
I sprayed for them back in the 90's part time
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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Can damage to the coatings be caused just during idling? How long does it take to do permanent damage if too rich/lean?
You can damage bright headers in less than a minute if fuel or timing are off far enough.....
That will actually burn it turning it darker & making it feel like 320 grit sandpaper
The peeling on the flange if not discolored is poor prep
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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Can damage to the coatings be caused just during idling? How long does it take to do permanent damage if too rich/lean?
You can damage bright headers in less than a minute if fuel or timing are off far enough.....
That will actually burn it turning it darker & making it feel like 320 grit sandpaper
The peeling on the flange if not discolored is poor prep
I think the reason is the company did not first do the sliver coat as they promised. If you wipe away the top coating of black cermaic you can see the bare metal below.
I had them do the rest of the exhaust system in the same black ceramic coating and it is holding up perfectly. Only the areas close to the heads are falling off.
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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03/04/13 11:40 AM
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That looks like a bare hand palm print before spraying
Most of the time that comes off when it goes in the beads to be polished
The beads will rub it off but since they're not polished it never happened
Do they offer a wire spray coating in the color you want?
That's good for 2400 degrees+
I have no idea if they do as i dont know what a wire spray coating is?? 
Here is another shot on the other side. I rattle canned the top of the pipes just to make it look a little better for now.
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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Hi Stu,
Do you know if they ceramic coated the inside of your headers?
I had a set of TTI's that had to be recoated. I spoke to the place who coated TTI's headers. At the time, I learned that not all of their ceramic headers TTI offered, were coated inside.
I had another set of headers coated by Jet-Hot at their Phoenix location. They ceramic coated my headers on the inside. I can't recall if I paid extra or if that was included.
From my understanding not many of the new headers and those offering ceramic header coating automatically do the inside of the headers since it's more costly.
From what I've been told by these places, coating the inside provides an added measure of protection. Of course poor prep, which others have mentioned, may explain the problem that you experienced and not the coating itself.
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Re: Anyone know much about ceramic coating headers?
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03/12/13 11:01 AM
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I have had several sets of hedders coated and/or recoated. And man, is there a difference in quality between them. First off, it has been my experience that if the first time failed, they won't do any better on the second. Second, I have noticed 2 distinctly different surface textures on the ceramic coatings. One is similar to having been painted. It is a little darker than the other, will scratch if you're not careful and the surface is slightly rougher. I have had no luck with this type of coating. It is better than paint, but certainly not worth the cost. The second is what you get from someone like QC Coatings. It is very smooth and bright. Doesn't look like paint, unless you are talking clear coat. It is just much harder, brighter, and smoother than the other stuff. Night and day difference. There may be others that have a coating like QC, but I don't want to experiment any more to find out. Sorry to be an advertisement for QC, but they cost about the same as the others, but their quality is head and shoulders above the others I have tried. 
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