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Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: MattW] #1382899 04/03/13 05:02 PM 04/03/13 05:02 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,184 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,184 PA.	Quote: I can see this thread going to the " It must be a happy dino, put it in a car yadda yadda BS. So what's wrong with that. Track times and MPH will tell us a lot more than a dyno ever will. Unless we start a dyno racing class. I love to hear a HAPPY ending with a great day at the track. We just never really get a lot of track times on these posts that back up the numbers so there are some of us that question a few things and numbers. PLEASE keep us informed on both track times and durability. Heck my son works for a pick a part, maybe someday I could build and own a HEMI. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: hemidup] #1382900 04/03/13 05:04 PM 04/03/13 05:04 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,998 GO BUCKS !!!!!!! 3 340RICK master
340RICK master 3 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,998 GO BUCKS !!!!!!!	Steff that is really awesome. You did a great job glad its all good, just in time for some good weather soon. I wont be the only dude around with a pump gas N/A 3G in the 9's Is the car ready to go for that bad boy

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: 340RICK] #1382901 04/03/13 05:44 PM 04/03/13 05:44 PM
Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN hemidup super stock
hemidup super stock Joined: Nov 2008 Posts: 833 MN	Quote: Steff that is really awesome. You did a great job glad its all good, just in time for some good weather soon. I wont be the only dude around with a pump gas N/A 3G in the 9's Is the car ready to go for that bad boy Rick, Steff confied to me his built G3 Hemi only made a 100 hp on motor. It wasn't till he added his 15th stage of n2o that it made that amount of power. J/K of course. WTG Steff Jerry Williams.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382902 04/03/13 06:16 PM 04/03/13 06:16 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca. J Just-a-dart pro stock
Just-a-dart pro stock J Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 1,454 Glendora Ca.	Steff I like a lot of others have been watching this build, thanks for sharing. Nice power and not peaky, should be fun. Looks like it's time for me to spend some money at Glendora Dodge soon. "Just a Bracket car dressed up like a streetcar"

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: Just-a-dart] #1382903 04/03/13 06:32 PM 04/03/13 06:32 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA Silver70 I Live Here
Silver70 I Live Here Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 18,582 Rust Belt, SW PA	Very impressive Now I have to fight the urge to build one 68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert 340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z 66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: Silver70] #1382904 04/03/13 06:35 PM 04/03/13 06:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,718 Portage,michigan B B3422W5 I Live Here
B3422W5 I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,718 Portage,michigan	Holy smokes Your gonna have fun with that monster 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382905 04/03/13 06:37 PM 04/03/13 06:37 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,010 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,010 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Quote: Had a Great 2 Days on the Dyno at Muscle Motors!!!! Mike and the Boys were Fantastic, tuning, teaching and guiding!!! All of my hopes and expectations were exceeded with this motor!! It runs great. My Belt drive performed as hoped. All inspection of the valve train looks great. Oil Filter was clean etc.... Motor was run on 93 Octane. Peak HP: 784 @ 7000rpm Peak Torque: 655.8 @ 5200rpm See attachments for full HP Numbers and Torque Numbers. Sorry for the crappy pics. Huge Thanx to Mike Ware - Muscle Motors, Jerry Cubatyj - SD Concepts, Sean Johnson - HardcoreB, Jerry Tomala - GDemon, Shawn Meyers at St, Clair Engines. Jeff at MCH This is fantastic! And on PUMPGAS! 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: gregsdart] #1382906 04/03/13 06:51 PM 04/03/13 06:51 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,010 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart I Live Here
gregsdart I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,010 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Ok, (to self)go to max stroke, 15/1 compression, M5 fuel, mechanical fuel injection, 900+ hp? And 100 plus pounds lighter than my 528 BB. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: Silver70] #1382907 04/03/13 07:34 PM 04/03/13 07:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,872 Smyrna, South Carolina STEFF OP master
STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,872 Smyrna, South Carolina	I'm totally down with the "Happy Dyno" comments......every dyno on the planet is "happy" except for the one the. "Critic" uses. And yes, I totally agree.....real proof is in the track performace. Unfortunatelyn it's going to be awhile for that. My Family and I are currently prepping for a move from Michigan to South Carolina. So, going to the track is on the back burner till summer. Sixpackgut, As for the Muscle Motor s Intake, I did not gasket match the ports. I liked it being just a hair smaller. The only work I did to it was blend the plenum where the machining was done for the Dominator carb. Jerry, that GM performace sticker and Lavender paint was worth 100. And yes Rick, car is ready to go. Motor is going in Friday. Last edited by STEFF; 04/03/13 07:42 PM.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382908 04/03/13 07:48 PM 04/03/13 07:48 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston S sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion
sixpackgut Drag Week Mod Champion S Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 9,225 Charleston	Where in SC are you moving? I hope by me Gen 3 power 6.22@110, 9.85@135 Follow @g3hemiswap on instagram performance only racing, CRT, ultimate converter, superior design concepts, ThumperCarbs

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382909 04/03/13 10:03 PM 04/03/13 10:03 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,184 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,184 PA.	Quote: I'm totally down with the "Happy Dyno" comments......every dyno on the planet is "happy" except for the one the. "Critic" uses. And yes, I totally agree.....real proof is in the track performace. Unfortunatelyn it's going to be awhile for that. My Family and I are currently prepping for a move from Michigan to South Carolina. So, going to the track is on the back burner till summer. Sixpackgut, As for the Muscle Motor s Intake, I did not gasket match the ports. I liked it being just a hair smaller. The only work I did to it was blend the plenum where the machining was done for the Dominator carb. Jerry, that GM performace sticker and Lavender paint was worth 100. And yes Rick, car is ready to go. Motor is going in Friday. BOY some of you guys are touchy. I didn'y really see any HAPPY dyno posts but it sure is nice to have some follow-up on accusal track performance and possible durability issues. I don't think that's asking to much. Oh and the track is my DYNO. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.42@138.27 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: pittsburghracer] #1382910 04/03/13 10:10 PM 04/03/13 10:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,057 Shelby Twp. Mi HardcoreB master
HardcoreB master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,057 Shelby Twp. Mi	Kudos to you Steve for great results from a lot of hard work. This build should inspire a lot of interest in the gen 3.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: HardcoreB] #1382911 04/03/13 11:14 PM 04/03/13 11:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,872 Smyrna, South Carolina STEFF OP master
STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,872 Smyrna, South Carolina	Not touchy at all on the "Happy Dyno" stuff. I can hardly wait to get this thing down the track to see how it performs!! Gut, I'll be working in Rock Hill and living somewhere within an hour from there. So far, just looking on line and a few recommendations, we've been looking at houses in Fort Mill and Lancaster. Hoping to find a house on Lake Wylie.

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382912 04/03/13 11:14 PM 04/03/13 11:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,943 Melbourne.....Oz-land Moparmal master
Moparmal master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,943 Melbourne.....Oz-land	Congrats...fantastic return for effort!

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: STEFF] #1382913 04/03/13 11:48 PM 04/03/13 11:48 PM
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WHITEDART master W Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 3,036 bean town ....Ca	In the 8s N/A.with Brett miller W8's 5.07 at 133 at 2700lb

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: WHITEDART] #1382914 04/04/13 12:01 AM 04/04/13 12:01 AM
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moparniac master M Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,295 U.S.	What did 340rick dyno at? (Just curious) Mopar Performance

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: moparniac] #1382915 04/04/13 12:15 AM 04/04/13 12:15 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,130 Dayton, Ohio W wldtm super stock
wldtm super stock W Joined: May 2005 Posts: 1,130 Dayton, Ohio	Congrats STEFF. Very impressive! I hope the car performs as well as the engine does. Definitely a cool build!!!! Justin Interested in having you car wired? Drag car, street car, EFI swap? PM for details

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: wldtm] #1382916 04/04/13 02:43 AM 04/04/13 02:43 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,145 Melbourne , Australia LA360 master
LA360 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,145 Melbourne , Australia	Great build, I hope to see some pics of it in the car! At the end of the day, dyno's are a tool, nothing more, nothing less. Many car's set ups are usually never tuned to their full potential and may not show the engines measured horsepower. In saying that, I have seen a few instances where more power has been shown in the car. Glad to see it all come together Steff, after a set back or two you've netted some very positive results Alan Jones

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: LA360] #1382917 04/04/13 04:41 AM 04/04/13 04:41 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,943 Melbourne.....Oz-land Moparmal master
Moparmal master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,943 Melbourne.....Oz-land	Steff - Can you explain why you went with a belt driven oil pump instead of the factory unit? Was it just capacity or is there an issue with the factory pumps?

Re: My 6.4 Gen 3 Hemi - Assembly In Process!!!!! [Re: Moparmal] #1382918 04/04/13 09:37 AM 04/04/13 09:37 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,872 Smyrna, South Carolina STEFF OP master
STEFF OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,872 Smyrna, South Carolina	Quote: Steff - Can you explain why you went with a belt driven oil pump instead of the factory unit? Was it just capacity or is there an issue with the factory pumps? My Cam/Crank Belt Drive eliminates the factory front cover, so the stock pump no longer can be used. Plus I really like the belt driven pump as you can adust the pressure on the low speed side, on the pump and then adjust the high rpm pressure with the pulley ratio, to really dial it in to the motor. Plus, it looks cool! LoL.

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