Re: 727 TF
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01/26/13 08:11 PM
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I agree with Cope trannys's. If you are going to buy a trans and not build your own then buy from a reliable company that builds good race tranny's and Cope does build good tranny's. Ron
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Re: 727 TF
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01/26/13 09:15 PM
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It would be a LOT cheaper to go through your present tranny if the core is good. You could have it rebuilt with an aftermarket steel or aluminum drum for less than $1500? If you need a lot of replacement parts, you are still way ahead of 3150.
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Re: 727 TF
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01/26/13 10:22 PM
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Thanks guys, I guess your all using them.lol What about A&A,any1 using them. I just looked @ Cope's site the pro race2 for $3150 is looking like the right choice for me, any1 using that 1?
I'm not using his tranny,but i use his internal parts(brake,drum,sprag etc.)with good results
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Re: 727 TF
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01/27/13 06:10 AM
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It would be a LOT cheaper to go through your present tranny if the core is good. You could have it rebuilt with an aftermarket steel or aluminum drum for less than $1500? If you need a lot of replacement parts, you are still way ahead of 3150.
I rebuilt mine and in the end I din't save very much money. Related thread:
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...page=0&vc=1
The ProRaceII is a full rollerized trans, with billet drums, gear, servo, new manual reverse VB, even a deep pan, plus a bunch more, and then there are associated assembly parts not even listed like the different thickness drum to pump bushings, selectable thickness output shaft snap ring, setting the clutch packs with selectable clutch retainer rings and/or different thickness kolene steels. If you price all the parts out you don't save a whole lot.
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Re: 727 TF
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01/27/13 11:22 AM
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Thanks guys, I guess your all using them.lol What about A&A,any1 using them. I just looked @ Cope's site the pro race2 for $3150 is lookin like the right choice for me, any1 using that 1?
If you phone John Cope he will give you a good recommendation on which of his transmissions fits your application best.
But, IMO, that ProRace II is more than you need for a street car. I am thinking the regular ProRace with the steel front drum upgrade would do the trick, $1,595+$535= $2,130. That saves you the expense of the roller bearing modifications.
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Re: 727 TF
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01/27/13 11:29 AM
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There are always up grades that some one could do to the 727 trans,, but the basic standard trans rebuild will work just fine! Attention to details when rebuilding is the key when it goes back together. There are several of us who have race cars, run deep into the 9 with just standard rebuilds, with small upgrades bolt in sprags,, and rear roller bearings which is both cheap to do! As stated , you can spend a lot , and get the same performance out of a stock unit.
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Re: 727 TF
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01/27/13 01:22 PM
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FWIW.. We just use a standard 727 built with a Turbo Action "Tranz Box" rebuild kit.Works great,no problems.
Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.
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Re: 727 TF
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01/27/13 03:59 PM
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I do understand where you guys are coming from, but i don't think a 800HP 3500lb B-body is a MILD Street Car. I'm looking for something that could last for some duration.
See Sig. I stripped down the 727 in the Challenger last year. After 4 seasons (70ish passes a year) it was hardly worn, the front clutch pack was 9 thou looser than when rebuilt (I kept notes). Still within the limits, it didn't need a rebuild but did it anyway since it was apart. It's built with stuff from CRT, the usual ware, Kolenes, reds, billet servo's, steel front 5 pinion planetary, bolt in sprag, Griner LBA MVB, oiling mods etc. Speak to John, he'll keep you right, they're easy enough to build yourself too. HTH's OH and a billet steel front drum.
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Re: 727 TF
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01/27/13 04:06 PM
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Get the 727 hand book Cope helped write it. I used it and all the parts from cope to build a nice street strip trans. Cope rebuild kit red alto clutches and koleen steels. billet servos tf2 or manual valve body 4.2 lever with heavy duty strut red lined bands steel planetary pump modifications done at home per the hand book. 6000 Rpm Governor if using auto shift . put the the money into the parts and build yourself 727 easy to do. this is what i did and then there is my friend has a bone stock trans behind a blown 440 with just a manual valve body for 200 bucks and the trans has held up with street and strip driving so far 10 plus years. a good trans to start with is key .
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