Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: anlauto]
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11/30/08 07:39 PM
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There is minimal flash rust in those areas. Based on a small test area we believe it will wipe off with a light oil. We haven't started the disassembly process but will have a better feel for it once that stage is completed. I am volunteering Dave W for that back breaking task! Dave.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: anlauto]
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11/30/08 07:53 PM
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I expect an indepth description of how you bring these areas back to the "NEW" appearance that you're after, including which type of chemicals/cleaners are used etc...
Hello Alan, Dave Stuart and I are currently working with a publishing house on a book that covers (in detail) the specifics of our past projects. Steve Been will also be a major contributor on the “How To” in this documentary. Tom Barcroft will be responsible for most of the pictorials and illustrations throughout the book. This vehicle will be the cornerstone of the various methods we incorporate throughout the processes.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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11/30/08 08:47 PM
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The plugs are metal and hold the panel down on the ends. All A-bodys use them,
Just saw a 68 Dart yesterday with original package tray and with the plugs.
BTW is was an LA build car no undercoating with underside black primer. Zero rust car and the primer color was pretty appearent.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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11/30/08 08:57 PM
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Hello Steve, Here are the photos of the rear package tray I promised. I have never seen any others with these small plastic plugs. When we take it apart I am sure things will unfold as to what purpose they serve. Maybe an A Body feature of some sort? I will let you know what we find. Thanks and have a Happy Thanksgiving!
DW ..
Thanks.
Did you notice any edging on the edges of the package tray near the sail panel?
Happy holidays.
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
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11/30/08 10:30 PM
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While I don't have a picture of that button, my car had...and still has those buttons going through the package tray.
My car belonged to my Grandmother and only had the wiper motor replaced...everything else was original. So, knowing how it should be was easy.
I had to replace the package tray...I'd love to find a good repro. Dave...do I remember that you are doing those?
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: mccannix]
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12/01/08 12:35 AM
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I believe the fitting in question is 2537392 used on 69 A body big block and 69 B Hemi, 70-71 E/B Hemi.
Yep, that is the correct fitting for the big block A-Bodies, it came on no other A-Body AFAIK.
Dave, looks like a fun project, can't wait to see it. I have parted out well over 300 A-Bodies in my life, so if you need to bounce anything off me, please do so!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: anlauto]
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12/01/08 02:03 PM
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That's the stuff I'm interested...
Here you go Alan! After searching across the country for Mopar Survivor candidates, this one was certainly the best we came across. As you can see there is almost no rust even on the bare metal surfaces. I will start to post the paint and thickness of (paint) material in a few days. Average thickness is 2.4 - 2.5 mil. The paint on this car doesn't have a noticeable scratch or door ding showing anywhere on the body panels. These are the "before" pictures that show the car exactly how we received it. Let me know what you think!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: JulesdaWiperman]
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12/02/08 03:44 PM
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Dave, your car is unreal! It looks like a true time capsule much like the Z28 in the other thread but IMO even better. I am having a little trouble with the mileage on the Z28 with only 1100 miles. The interior carpeting shows signs of more wear than just 1100 miles. From the pictures you posted Dave, your 10,000 mile car is in better shape. Goes to show how one survivor will survive compared to another. Both cars are awesome but I think the Dart has survived better. How about some pictures of the interior? Jules
Hi Jules, Here are a couple of comparison pictures from the Camaro you mentioned. These photos were taken the day we picked up the car. The interior really almost looks brand new. The carpet still has the gloss sheen as if shoes had never touched it. (Not a stain or wear pattern anywhere.) I also included a picture comparing one of the decals off of that car and our reproductions. I have had the pleasure of working with and supplying some of the guys on that forum. They are also an enthusiastic group of car guys! Thanks for your comments Mr. J!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: 340wedge]
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12/03/08 06:12 PM
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Are we sure that nobody has been in there?? I'm questioning the wire and paint in the lower, right corner.....
....there is nothing like driving my 1968 Hemi Dart around town and having people looking at you like you're nuts!!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: Troy]
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12/04/08 12:21 AM
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Hey Mr. T, How are things in sunny California? Hope you are doing well. I need to call you and catch up on the pasts couple of months. Like many survivors, there will be things that are discovered and evaluated along the way that will obviously not be evident until they are found. Every survivor has it’s own past and story to accompany it. Take the Z28 Camaro in another thread. You have those who think it looks like a time capsule and the best survivor they have seen. Oddly enough they don’t seem to question the characteristics that make it look more like a car having 15 or 20,000 miles. We don’t have an answer for the wire along the brace but (on the rear driver’s side area) the trunk floor has signs of metallic blue paint underneath the bubbled, baked black paint. Dave Stuart surmised that the factory started to incorrectly paint with that color and came back with the black once they discovered that the wrong hue was being applied. There are no repairs so it does not make any sense as to why there would be a touch up on that cross brace. We have checked all body panels and the paint is consistent throughout the car. These pictures depict exactly the way we found things. (Some photos do distort the color and real appearance of the parts on the car.) We have not cleaned or started to disassemble anything. Will there be other areas of discovery that we cannot see or detect by simply looking it over? Maybe, possibly…who knows? One thing is for sure, I don’t think we could have found a better candidate for the project we have embarked on! Besides Troy, at least now there will be more involved that just a wash and a wax. We might actually have to replace a wire! Oh well…..there goes the project.
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