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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: DUSTER_340] #137322
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Dave I have a question on the horns.The horn you have the photo of, appears to have a bolt securing the horn to the bracket.Thus allowing the horn to be pivoted about the bracket.Do you know if this style was a replacment horn,or to what cars the solid mount was original to?




As far as I know, most early 70's original horns had this type of configuration. Of all the ones I have worked with the bracket was never solidly attached to the horn but had the ability to move bidirectional a click (or raised spot) at a time.

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: 62maxwgn] #137323
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The more I see the A Body cars, the better I like them. Yours is certainly a beautiful example of that year car. It sounds like your model also had some unique options. Did you order the car new or find out how it ended up with some of those various options?

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: 62maxwgn] #137324
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(quote) Has anyone else seen this type of drive train setup in a six cylinder car? (quote)..


Back in 79 my wifes 71 6cyl Dart Swinger Special (low end of line) had air,rim blow wheel,front sway bar,disc brakes and 8 3/4 sure grip.Don't know ratio but on a trip to Canada it made 26mpg.


This is how it ended up.




I've pulled a couple A body 8 3/4's out of 71 Swingers like that with discs, a/c, rim blow. V8 and /6. Non were sure grip, but I think that would be more popular in a non performance car back east. The rim blow was part of a package that was pretty popular. The Swinger rim blows I used to see were cracked badly and alway have an aftermarket button switch drilled in the center cap.

Here one for sale at the 2005 San Diego swap meet for $1700 with a maaco type paint job. IIRC, it was a /6 but did not have an 8 3/4 nor disc brakes.



2nd car is a really nice survivor 71 Swinger 51K miles and counting. It has discs, deluxe interior, butterscotch, ac, and a 8 3/4. I think most of original stuff was there and fuctionable. Like hoses, spark plug wire, rad cap, wash resivour... But not something you'd take on 100 mile trip (which the owner does). I think he saved some/alot of the stuff.

I have more hi res pics and the owner car w/car comes to club meetings.


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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: 62maxwgn] #137325
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(quote) Has anyone else seen this type of drive train setup in a six cylinder car? (quote)..


Back in 79 my wifes 71 6cyl Dart Swinger Special (low end of line) had air,rim blow wheel,front sway bar,disc brakes and 8 3/4 sure grip.Don't know ratio but on a trip to Canada it made 26mpg.


This is how it ended up.





Rimblow wheels are very common in 71 Darts.

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137326
11/22/08 10:19 AM
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The more I see the A Body cars, the better I like them. Yours is certainly a beautiful example of that year car. It sounds like your model also had some unique options. Did you order the car new or find out how it ended up with some of those various options?




Dave,will try to keep this short.The Dart was sitting in the back of a friends junk yard in Oct of 1979.Odometer had 10,004 miles and a 1973 PA inspection sticker,and still had plastic on the seats.He had bought it for his daughter in 1975 and she didn't want it.I bought it and my wife put 100K miles on it until I redid it in 95.At that time I bought a wrecked 68 GTs.Used the motor and transmission.Everything under the hood except the 68 long block was correct 1971 including the one year Thermoquad and air cleaner.Added the correct hood with scoops and cutouts with seals,had it stripped and repainted and added tail stripe.Everty piece of trim including bumpers was replaced with N.O.S. parts even though it didn't need them.Interior is original.Car was flawless.Sat in the garage and had a total of 200 miles in 5yrs.Sold it three years ago to a friend.He kept it 6mo and sold it at Carlisle in 2005.It went to NJ.The new owner had it at Carlisle this past summer with a $18,500 price tag.Don't know if he ever sold it.Here are before and after pictures.Not the best but you can get an idea of the condition.

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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: 62maxwgn] #137327
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: 62maxwgn] #137328
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On the topic of Rimblow wheels, have any of you ever seen a (factory installed) Rimblow in a Duster?

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: 62maxwgn] #137329
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What a transition! The changes you did made the car look great. The thing that will make this project fun will be the stories and examples that other hobbyist have been involved with. I have always said that the cars are the means that allow us to share experiences and specifics of what the hobby has been to all of us.
Thanks for sharing those pictures. I don't think I would have let that one go! I am looking forward to hearing about the other A Bodies and other odd factory options these cars came with. Chrysler certainly bucked the system (options) when compared to the other automobile manufacturers.

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #137330
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On the topic of Rimblow wheels, have any of you ever seen a (factory installed) Rimblow in a Duster?




Hi Scott,
I have not seen one but I would imagine someone might have ordered a Duster equipped with one. You have probably worked on hundreds of different Mopar vehicles. Have you seen any (Dusters) with the Rimblow option wheel?
Thanks.

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #137331
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On the topic of Rimblow wheels, have any of you ever seen a (factory installed) Rimblow in a Duster?




Does not show up in any factory literature as being available. But only hope would be a limited sales model like a Spring Special or Topper or...

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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: autoxcuda] #137332
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This car seems to have alot of the options missing from the fender tag but are documented on the buildsheet. (Disc Brakes Code B41, Rear Defogger Code H31, 3.21:1 Axle Code D53/ Sure Grip Code D91, etc....) The other two cars I have do not have so many items missing form the fender tags. Is this common trait with A Body cars?

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: autoxcuda] #137333
11/26/08 04:22 PM
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Hello Steve,
Here are the photos of the rear package tray I promised. I have never seen any others with these small plastic plugs. When we take it apart I am sure things will unfold as to what purpose they serve. Maybe an A Body feature of some sort? I will let you know what we find. Thanks and have a Happy Thanksgiving!

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The plugs are metal and hold the panel down on the ends. All A-bodys use them, E-bodys have the clip like a door panel under the tray. Are there 2 or 4 on that car? You can see them from inside the trunk.

Is the car p/s? If so is there a 90 deg. fitting on the steering box like a hemi car with p/s?


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Thanks Mauro!! There are smaller tabs and larger ones. The smaller ones are in front where I have seen the pieces you referred to on the E Body package trays. The larger ones are position back towards the speaker cutouts and are at least twice the circumference as the smaller ones. Are they also used to hold the tray to the metal underneath? The car is at Dave Stuart's shop so I don't have access to it right now. (I will post a picture of the P/S unit shortly.)

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Is the car p/s? If so is there a 90 deg. fitting on the steering box like a hemi car with p/s?






Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137337
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WOW!!! That package tray looks new.

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137338
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Thanks Dave.

If any A-body experts are reading this what do you know about A-body 1968-1969 /6 with p/s having a 90deg. fitting for the high pressure side. This just a fyi for myself nothing to do with your car Dave.


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I believe the fitting in question is 2537392 used on 69 A body big block and 69 B Hemi, 70-71 E/B Hemi.

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: moparo] #137340
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Dave Stuart and I took many pictures today concerning the details inside of the trunk. You were correct on the two different buttons Mauro. They were definitely there to secure the package tray in place. Some of the other findings were also really interesting. For whatever reason, a few of the A Body decals are different than anything I have ever documented (regarding similar 1970 vehicles) in the past. I will post some of the photos that illustrate other characteristics that are sometimes in question. (Paint coverage, primer coverage, dip line, package tray area bare metal, etc…..)

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(Paint coverage, primer coverage, dip line, package tray area bare metal, etc…..)




That's the stuff I'm interested...
I would like to see if there's bare metal under the rear tray area in the trunk etc....and if so is it rusted?....by the look of the rest of the pictures of this car look, I would expect these areas to be very well preserved with no signs of surface discolouration or rust.
HOWEVER...if these areas are rusted and not 100% clean bare metal (with the exception of overspray) I expect an indepth description of how you bring these areas back to the "NEW" appearance that you're after, including which type of chemicals/cleaners are used etc...

I'm glad I'm not doing it, only reading about it

If I understand your mission fully, then I would say this project will be way more involved then most people can even imagine.


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