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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: anlauto]
#137270
10/30/08 12:48 PM
10/30/08 12:48 PM
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David Walden
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Is there such a thing? And if you find one, will it look "NEW" or function like new?
If you do find an original please post pictures of it beside a reproduction....
Is there a point deduction?
Question #1 - I can't answer that question. I will only know the condition of the battery, once it is found, in order to evaluate it.
Question #2 - I don't have a reproduction yellow top battery nor will I buy one unless I cannot find an original. If I can't find an original I will not have anything to compare a reproduction to. If I find an original I will be able to answer question #one and there will be no reason to purchase a reproduction. (Just for a comparison.)
Question #3 - I am almost sure you get a point deduction for any reproduction part found on an OE judged car.
Thanks!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: ECS]
#137271
10/30/08 01:18 PM
10/30/08 01:18 PM
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N.E. OHIO, USA
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Is there such a thing? And if you find one, will it look "NEW" or function like new?
Can they be rebuilt/restored?
If you do find an original please post pictures of it beside a reproduction....I don't think I've ever seen an original Is there a lot of differences? I know of one difference that will give you a "clue" or telltale that it "might" be an original battery and not a reproduction. To be fair to Dave's search I'll pm what it is (to you Dave) if you don't already know? I even have a photo  . Let me know.
Which leads me to a OE Level judging question....
If a persons car is sporting a reproduction battery, which I'm sure 99% are....Is there a point deduction?
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Is there such a thing? And if you find one, will it look "NEW" or function like new?
If you do find an original please post pictures of it beside a reproduction....
Is there a point deduction?
Question #1 - I can't answer that question. I will only know the condition of the battery, once it is found, in order to evaluate it.
Question #2 - I don't have a reproduction yellow top battery nor will I buy one unless I cannot find an original. If I can't find an original I will not have anything to compare a reproduction to. If I find an original I will be able to answer question #one and there will be no reason to purchase a reproduction. (Just for a comparison.)
Question #3 - I am almost sure you get a point deduction for any reproduction part found on an OE judged car. Dave, be honest here is this the main reason for going with a 99.99% original equipment "survivor" with no reproduction items on it. That's been my "opinion" from your first post and I still think it is very clever thinking on your part (pun) to approach it this way and eliminate the point deductions for reproduction, NOS, and even lunchbox items that may be questioned. 
Thanks!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: ECS]
#137273
10/30/08 02:50 PM
10/30/08 02:50 PM
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Georgetown Ontario Canada
anlauto
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Dave W. has come up with some amazing NOS finds before, like a complete rally dash for his 70 Challenger, so I'm certain that if there is a NOS battery or perfect original (correctly dated of course  )out there, he WILL find it. A feat that 99% of us, myself included, can't even imagine attempting.  U da man
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: anlauto]
#137274
10/30/08 05:25 PM
10/30/08 05:25 PM
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A feat that 99% of us, myself included, can't even imagine attempting.
Stop it Alan!! That is a very nice thing to say but there is not a single thing that we have done that could not be done by ANYONE who decided to take the time and effort to do it. Without the input of everyone involved, none of this would be possible. We have a very competent group of people who contribute to get the overall desired results. (I am just the goofball that keeps slamming into the brick wall no matter what the results might be.) Dave Stuart and Steve Been are a couple of guys that are great to have involved with the project. I know that everyone knows the expert skills of Steve and Dave is a great new addition in the mix of things. Having a Chrysler executive (over 20 years experience) involved is a tremendous asset!
Thanks for the compliment Mr. G!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: 340wedge]
#137275
10/30/08 05:30 PM
10/30/08 05:30 PM
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What's the story on why this A body has such low mileage? I'm looking foward to seeing something different restored to OEM... 
The original owner died a few years ago and she was 94. It was bought by a couple of different collectors who kept the original miles very low. One of the rear seat belts still had the plastic protector sleeve still in place right before we got it!
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: 340wedge]
#137276
11/07/08 01:39 PM
11/07/08 01:39 PM
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Cleveland Ohio
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What's the story on why this A body has such low mileage? I'm looking foward to seeing something different restored to OEM...
Pretty sure this was the car on Ebay someone bought for their son, and the kid didn't want it, He wanted to play Golf or something along those lines instead. Maybe two years ago now? 
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: ECS]
#137279
11/10/08 10:33 PM
11/10/08 10:33 PM
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Georgetown Ontario Canada
anlauto
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How far will this car be taken apart? Would it make sense, or would there be any need to remove items such as door glass or regulators? Windshield or back glass? Will the fenders or doors even need to be removed? In the case of the fenders it would be a shame to "up-set" the original factory undercoat  wouldn't it? Now you've had your hands on the car for a while what are your plans? How far will you go when dismantling it?
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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!!
[Re: anlauto]
#137280
11/10/08 11:12 PM
11/10/08 11:12 PM
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How far will this car be taken apart? How far will you go when dismantling it?
At this point we are planning on taking most of the car apart. All glass will be removed, stainless trim buffed to look new, engine and drive train taken out as well as the complete front and rear suspension. The body panels (doors-fenders-trunk deck-hood) will not be removed. The doors work perfectly and I would not want to upset how well they operate. We should be able to match the jambs and engine compartment when the outside is shot with one coat of paint. We are still trying to figure out if any other panels might not need to be re-sprayed in the process. As stated at the beginning of this thread, the project will involve a tremendous amount of craftsmanship with regards to having seamless blends with the existing paint. All the undercoat will also be preserved and tinted to look like the day it was applied. The natural metal components will also have to be resurfaced to look like new again.
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The original one is gone 
