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Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: CSK] #1362865
01/01/13 11:29 PM
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American made crankshafts are still out there.
Crower , Callies , HRC ...... I am not sure if BRC still is around , Bryant , Ohio crankshaft I think.
Probably others.

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: tubtar] #1362866
01/02/13 12:37 AM
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My brother and I both use their strokers kits. Mine is a 440 block (493) and he uses a 400 block (499) and both have been raced and holding up fine. Some of their other parts I have heard can give problems like their rocker arms but I have only used the stroker kit as my heads are Indy EZ heads. Myself I would have no problem using another of their kits but I did check it over real good. Other then tight piston pins which I honed the rods everything else checked in specs. Ron

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: patosmith] #1362867
01/02/13 01:01 AM
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I used a fair number of 440Source parts building the engines for my Max Performance big block book. I never had any problems with any of their parts.

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: AndyF] #1362868
01/02/13 02:08 AM
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Their aluminum main caps leave a bit to be desired. One hole was off and the thrust bearing surface is too wide for use with my 1975 400 blocks. Nice guys on the phone when I called to ask them about the above issues.

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: Jeremiah] #1362869
01/02/13 03:07 AM
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gulfport, ms, west mi
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I bought 440 source 505 stroker kit, had it balanced by them also, had it checked over by a machine shop with no problems found, I'm sure if there was they would have jumped right on it as they didn't cut me any slack on the machine work on the block. Been racing it for about 4 years, hundreds of runs with no problems, I'd by another by the way it runs low 10's.


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Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: rowin4] #1362870
01/02/13 03:42 AM
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St. Louis, MO
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wonder how many views and responses this one will get? Hummmmm Yea right

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Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: patosmith] #1362871
01/02/13 04:51 AM
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Aurora, Colorado
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I posted a bunch of Info on my 505 build using the 4.25" stroke, 7.1" rod kit in a 440, and also using the Stealth heads. For the most part the kit was good, but had one rod where the notch that locates the bearing was a bit off, and the bearing was touching the radius of the crank, the result (indicator) was tight rods side clearance. I just chamfered the bearing slightly and it was OK.
Here is a link:
https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

I also have a 440 source 4.15" stroker kit in a 400 block, and I have not had any problems with the 440 source parts, but the Edelbrock Victor heads have given me problems.

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: 451Mopar] #1362872
01/02/13 07:34 AM
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I am running a set of Stealth heads and love 'em!

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: bobs66440] #1362873
01/02/13 11:27 AM
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Nebraska
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I bought several parts from them for my recent 470 build. The only part I bought that is currently in the motor is the crankshaft. Which to my surprise checked out fine. The other parts are in the junk pile. Lesson learned.

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: patosmith] #1362874
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i have a 73 cuda with a 440 source rotating assembly .it's 540 c.i 10.5-1 and rev it 6800.As long as you have it checked ,just like anyone elses. you'll be fine .my car is 3860 w/ me in it and i run 10.00 t0 10.10 depending on weather at 136-7 mph .it's been together for 4 yrs. no issuses. Remember (1)People will complain about anything and (2)you get what you pay for.their stuff is'nt crap but it's not gold either. 5,300 stall appox. 700 hp

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: 70VcodeCoronetRT] #1362875
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i've built several strokers using their kits, and they're all still out there. the parts all checked better than my kit, which was from mancini (eagle crank and rods, diamond pistons). of course, the rods need to be pin fitted. i don't think the chinese will EVER get the hang of proper pin fit (most likely the reason for the pin bushing failure pictured earlier in this tread). there are some things i would not use from 440 source, but the rotating assemblies have been good for me.


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Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: maximum entropy] #1362876
01/02/13 03:36 PM
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Ive run their heads for 4 years.My kid has their mini starter on his 62 also.No problems with either.Rocky


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Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: maximum entropy] #1362877
01/02/13 11:50 PM
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Downtown Roebuck Ont
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Quote:

i've built several strokers using their kits, and they're all still out there. the parts all checked better than my kit, which was from mancini (eagle crank and rods, diamond pistons). of course, the rods need to be pin fitted. i don't think the chinese will EVER get the hang of proper pin fit (most likely the reason for the pin bushing failure pictured earlier in this tread). there are some things i would not use from 440 source, but the rotating assemblies have been good for me.




It's pretty hard to mass produce a rod with a fitted pin bore when there are more than one size of .990 pin. Brandon told me when I bought mine, that they were machined tight and had to be honed to fit. Easy to take metal away, hard to put it back.

The only thing I had to touch on my Source kit was the pin fit and I was told that up front. Anything else that came out of a box that said Edelbrock, Mopar Performance, Milodon or Ross had no end of annoying or expensive surprises. As my builder likes to say, "if it comes out of a box, it's FUBAR"

The safest course no matter who's box your parts come out of is to assume they are junk and check and correct as required. That way you don't have a pin bushing that looks like the one above.

Kevin

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: Twostick] #1362878
01/03/13 12:01 AM
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I had the I-beams in a 512....they made a pretty hole in the side of the block which in turn put nice dent in the quarter panel thanks to the gardrail. Eagle rods and a diaper on this one..


5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: Twostick] #1362879
01/03/13 12:02 AM
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I've used their cranks, rods, heads, pistons etc for 6 or 7 motors. All have had zero issues. Would i build a max effort drag motor with their stuff? No way!! But for a mild street stroker motor, sure. Check everything thouroughly!! Lots of people have big issues with some of their products. I may be a lucky one i donno?

Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: Chris2581] #1362880
01/03/13 03:03 AM
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Quote:

I have a set of their Stealth heads and no problems with them.I did change the springs retainers and locks as I went with a cam that was more than the 440 source parts were specified for.




x2 here. I hate the way we as a group act about this topic.


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Re: 440 Source Parts Quality [Re: StealthWedge67] #1362881
01/03/13 04:39 PM
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A buddy of mine had a 572 with -1s on it the crank,rods,and pistons came from 440 source he sprayed it every lap for two years an went in the 4.50's more times than I can count.
The stuff is as good as the guy putting it together.
I had a 520 440 source bottom end ran it two years went 5.00 many times, no problems

It all depends on how much power your going after


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