Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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No, only because I have not been convinced that aluminum cable could carry the current needed to start the engine and keep all things going with the battery in the trunk. ThumperDart has looked into some type of Copper coated 2 gauge aluminum cable that supposedly works, but I have not heard enough feedback to justify it. The bulkhead connection was interestingly mentioned that could make a smaller/lighter gauge cable work. Anyone want to add a comment to that?
I'm using the Accel "Lightening Cable" and it works great with the trunk mount battery. I have also optimized my wiring size for every wire in my car. I am even using the thin jacketed wire as well. You would be surprised how many people could get by with 18 and 20 GA wires where most "race" car wiring kits provide 14 and 16 GA wiring for everything. I think I have 20 GA going to the rear (at least 14') to power the LED tail lights. Anyway, you definately have to think outside the box when looking for places to loose weight. And no, none of it comes cheaply after the big hitters are gone.
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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408 Okay, I'm gonna look deeply into those Accel cables that you and others have mentioned. My setup is a street/strip car and I still have headlights, Taillights, electric fan, MSD 6AL ignition, Aeromotive A-1000 electric fuel pump in the tank and that's about it. 408. Do you have your main hot lead battery cable connected at a bulkhead box on the firewall and going to the battery out back? * And if so, does that cable continue after the bulk head as a second piece to the starter? * What gauge is the main hot lead cable leading back to the battery? I'm not an electrical kind of guy since the Third rail zapped me quite a few years back. LOL.
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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I work around the power industry & aluminium cables are used widly in this industry & I believe some of the import boys are getting into it as well. There is plenty of info on the net to convert the power capability between copper and aluminium cables so you can work out what size you need. You need to talk to someone in the industry that uses aluminium cables to get all the tricks & traps but I do know you have to clean the aluminium strands with flux & a SS wire brush right before you crimp the ends to minimise oxidation. You are on a mission man, I wish you well.
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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408 Okay, I'm gonna look deeply into those Accel cables that you and others have mentioned. My setup is a street/strip car and I still have headlights, Taillights, electric fan, MSD 6AL ignition, Aeromotive A-1000 electric fuel pump in the tank and that's about it. 408. Do you have your main hot lead battery cable connected at a bulkhead box on the firewall and going to the battery out back? * And if so, does that cable continue after the bulk head as a second piece to the starter? * What gauge is the main hot lead cable leading back to the battery? I'm not an electrical kind of guy since the Third rail zapped me quite a few years back. LOL.
2GA from the trunk to a power distribution lug on my ignition panel (about where the arm rest is on the pass side). I do have another 2GA cable that goes from there to the 250A starter solenoid and then from there to the starter. I know some people frown on this style of wiring a starter, but it has never let me down. Looks clean and was the low weight solution.
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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This is such a cool thread. Lee what gauge/thickness aluminum did you use for the cross brace in front of the rad?
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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#1 from the Accel line up?
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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Rear mounted Braile battery (21) LBS and welding cable. The battery tray is Aluminum and mounted with long high strength carriage head bolts that go through the chassis. two of them are underneath the battery.
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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Rear mounted Braile battery (21) LBS and welding cable. The battery tray is Aluminum and mounted with long high strength carriage head bolts that go through the chassis. two of them are underneath the battery.
I can see another pound in that battery hold down and mounts. Doug
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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If I can't take it out of the battery tray, I'll find some where else. These Muffler hangers save 1-1/2 lbs for the pair.
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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Close up of the Hangers.
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Re: Real world weight loss program and it` cost..........
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Here are some of the earliest of the Aluminum hinges that I plucked up. They save 7 LBS total (not counting the bolts)for both doors. But... Can be costly from what I hear. $700 beans these days. Also, I believe that your doors need to be rather light in order for these hinges to have a long service life.
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