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rust remover? #1330859 11/04/12 10:02 PM 11/04/12 10:02 PM
Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 515 New Richmond, WI K kams OP mopar
kams OP mopar K Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 515 New Richmond, WI	Was wondering what's a cheap rust remover or something I can let parts get dipped into to remove rust. What was the molasses mixture I heard of. thanks kurt

Re: rust remover? [Re: kams] #1330860 11/04/12 10:19 PM 11/04/12 10:19 PM
Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 84 NW Pennsylvania A areibel member
areibel member A Joined: Aug 2005 Posts: 84 NW Pennsylvania	I don't know about the molasses one, but I tried this one and it works- https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1 I used two gallons of vinegar and the right amounts of salt and lemon juice, I put it in a big plastic tub. I was able to clean quite a bit before it seemed to loose effectiveness. One tip, I'd let the stuff soak for a couple hours, then pull it out and use a cheap paint brush to knock the sludge off. It seems likeit speeds it up a bit?

Re: rust remover? [Re: areibel] #1330861 11/04/12 10:28 PM 11/04/12 10:28 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,357 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa... hemi71x master
hemi71x master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,357 Rancho Cordova, California (Sa...	Use this stuff. Probably not "cheap" in your thinking, but quite effective in removing rust from parts. http://www.rustremover.net/ 7449015-Evaporust.jpg (80 downloads) Last edited by hemi71x; 11/06/12 07:16 PM. RF-4C Phantom 69-370 Zweibrucken, Germany

Re: rust remover? [Re: hemi71x] #1330862 11/05/12 12:18 AM 11/05/12 12:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,822 Between Houston & Galveston TX SattyNoCar Smarter than no class Flappergass by a mile
SattyNoCar Smarter than no class Flappergass by a mile Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 16,822 Between Houston & Galveston TX	I recently tried some evapo-rust on an old rusty humming bird feeder my Mom has. Not deep pitted rust, but, thick enough rust that a wire brush was of little use. All I can say is WOW! Left a part soaking in evapo-rust overnight, and it came out like new...... I wasn't able to fully submerse the part, so you can easily see 'before and after'. John The dream is dead, long live the dream.......😥

Re: rust remover? [Re: SattyNoCar] #1330863 11/05/12 12:49 AM 11/05/12 12:49 AM
Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley RodStRace I Live Here
RodStRace I Live Here Joined: Sep 2005 Posts: 12,481 Chino Valley	I have used and am happy with Evaporust, except I've got too much rusty stuff! Try over on the HAMB for the molasses deal. Seems that many swear by it, but it's gotta be done over time and it STINKS!

Re: rust remover? [Re: RodStRace] #1330864 11/05/12 01:00 AM 11/05/12 01:00 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I am VERY happy with the way Evaporust removes rust, even REALLY bad rust will disolve away completely in a day or two. However, I am unhappy with the relatively short life it has, I have gone through over 10 gallons of it derusting parts from one car (dash stuff, suspension parts, etc.). So it's pretty expensive. I have started to shop around for a similar but more cost effective product and found this stuff Un-Rust It promises the same type of safe removal (only removes rust, will not etch, pit, or otherwise remove or damage good metal like acid baths can do). I ordered some today, we'll see how it goes.

Re: rust remover? [Re: areibel] #1330865 11/05/12 01:49 AM 11/05/12 01:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Quote: I don't know about the molasses one, but I tried this one and it works- https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1 I used two gallons of vinegar and the right amounts of salt and lemon juice, I put it in a big plastic tub. I was able to clean quite a bit before it seemed to loose effectiveness. One tip, I'd let the stuff soak for a couple hours, then pull it out and use a cheap paint brush to knock the sludge off. It seems likeit speeds it up a bit? This mixture works great. I mix it up in a 5 gallon bucket, about 3-1/2 gallons at a time. I seems to have a very long "shelf life" and I have cleaned a lot of parts without it losing much strength. I let stuff sit anywhere from 24 hours to 2 or 3 days when the weather is much cooler. I dont think it could get more cost effective for rust cleaning 7449261-DSC06425.JPG (37 downloads)

Re: rust remover? [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #1330866 11/05/12 01:55 AM 11/05/12 01:55 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,458 oklahoma F forphorty pro stock
forphorty pro stock F Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,458 oklahoma	Quote: Quote: I don't know about the molasses one, but I tried this one and it works- https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1 I used two gallons of vinegar and the right amounts of salt and lemon juice, I put it in a big plastic tub. I was able to clean quite a bit before it seemed to loose effectiveness. One tip, I'd let the stuff soak for a couple hours, then pull it out and use a cheap paint brush to knock the sludge off. It seems likeit speeds it up a bit? This mixture works great. I mix it up in a 5 gallon bucket, about 3-1/2 gallons at a time. I seems to have a very long "shelf life" and I have cleaned a lot of parts without it losing much strength. I let stuff sit anywhere from 24 hours to 2 or 3 days when the weather is much cooler. I dont think it could get more cost effective for rust cleaning

Re: rust remover? [Re: forphorty] #1330867 11/05/12 02:08 AM 11/05/12 02:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Personally I don't find many uses for acid because of the finish it leaves on metal (etched or pitted) but if you want to use acid why not use the good stuff? buy some Muratic acid (swimming pool acid) it's cheap and works fast, it will remove most rust in minutes not days, and will leave the same surface finish as the vinigar does, just a whole lot faster, It's dirt cheap too.

Re: rust remover? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1330868 11/05/12 02:22 AM 11/05/12 02:22 AM
Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,826 South Bend John Brown top fuel
John Brown top fuel Joined: May 2012 Posts: 1,826 South Bend	Quote: Personally I don't find many uses for acid because of the finish it leaves on metal (etched or pitted) but if you want to use acid why not use the good stuff? buy some Muratic acid (swimming pool acid) it's cheap and works fast, it will remove most rust in minutes not days, and will leave the same surface finish as the vinigar does, just a whole lot faster, It's dirt cheap too. Try using in your garage and watch every loose piece of iron in there develop a nice red covering of rust. Sorry, but no thanks. July 19th should be "Drive Like Rockford Day". R.I.P. Jimmie.

Re: rust remover? [Re: John Brown] #1330869 11/05/12 02:51 AM 11/05/12 02:51 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	I know better than that Not to mention (as I already did) I don't like using ANY type of acid for rust removal, too many good non acid choices these days to resort to that in most circumstances.

Re: rust remover? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1330870 11/05/12 04:06 AM 11/05/12 04:06 AM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Quote: I don't like using ANY type of acid for rust removal. Since the ph of evaporust is 6.1, per msds, it's acidic and should be avoided... correct?

Re: rust remover? [Re: RobX4406] #1330871 11/05/12 12:58 PM 11/05/12 12:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Semantics......Bottom line is that Evaporust wont etch, pit, or otherwise remove good metal, viniger, citric acid, and muratic acid will.

Re: rust remover? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1330872 11/05/12 01:24 PM 11/05/12 01:24 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central RobX4406 I Live Here
RobX4406 I Live Here Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 12,271 Overpriced Housing Central	Aren't any semantics in reading or comprehending your statement. Evaporust is an acid as it's 6.1 ph is less than 7. Because evaporust is an acid, by your own statement, it should be avoided. What is the next song you would like queued up?

Re: rust remover? [Re: RobX4406] #1330873 11/05/12 01:35 PM 11/05/12 01:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Rob....Are you just bored or what?

Re: rust remover? [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1330874 11/05/12 02:16 PM 11/05/12 02:16 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,368 Iowa burdar Owen's Dad
burdar Owen's Dad Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,368 Iowa	Scott, just a little word of advise. When using EvapoRust, make sure you submerge the part completely. Don't just dip one section of the part. I dipped one end of a part in EvapoRust once. When I removed the part, there was a shallow groove eaten into the part at the dip line.

Re: rust remover? [Re: burdar] #1330875 11/05/12 02:26 PM 11/05/12 02:26 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,141 Las Vegas, NV Tom_440 master
Tom_440 master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,141 Las Vegas, NV	I have used the muriatic acid on small parts and it works great. I rinse it well afterwards with water. I would not use the stuff on a large scale because it is nasty to work with and sure hurts on the skin. Buy why not just neutralize the parts with something like baking soda afterwards? Baking soda and an extra bucket are cheap.

Re: rust remover? [Re: Tom_440] #1330876 11/05/12 03:22 PM 11/05/12 03:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Quote: I have used the muriatic acid on small parts and it works great. I rinse it well afterwards with water. I would not use the stuff on a large scale because it is nasty to work with and sure hurts on the skin. Buy why not just neutralize the parts with something like baking soda afterwards? Baking soda and an extra bucket are cheap. Muriatic acid is too dangerous and agressive for me to use it comfortably. With the vinegar/lemon juice/salt mix I dont have to wear rubber gloves, be particularly concerned about splash or using it in an enclosed area. Disposal is not an issue for it either. I make a 3-1/2 gallon batch for under $10. Lasts for months.

Re: rust remover? [Re: nomore65BelvJim] #1330877 11/05/12 04:12 PM 11/05/12 04:12 PM
Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada D DPelletier I Live Here
DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	I'm very interested in this thread/topic. For years, I always did this; - 1) mechanically removed rust; wire brush/wire wheel/sandpaper or sandblasting (if feasible) - 2) etch/convert the surface with acid or one of the "phosphate" type converters. - 3) cover with primer/paint to prevent moisture and oxygen from reaching the metal. ....BUT, it seems with all the products and all the hype/claims, it is VERY hard to determine what is the best product(s) to use. Like many people, I don't really care what it costs; whatever the cost, it's cheap compared to cutting, welding and rust repair. Here's some links I found; http://www.drjing.com/Mini/BLOG/SideBySide.htm http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtop...sc&start=40 Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: rust remover? [Re: RodStRace] #1330878 11/05/12 05:11 PM 11/05/12 05:11 PM
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Chargerfan pro stock C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,558 Midwest	Sounds like naval jelly. Quote: Try over on the HAMB for the molasses deal. Seems that many swear by it, but it's gotta be done over time and it STINKS! 2011 Challenger R/T 2017 Ram 1500 BIG HORN Edition

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